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so I can confirm that the Department of

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object over Alaska airspace in the last

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and posed a reasonable threat to the

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safety of Civilian flight

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out of an abundance of caution after

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recommendation of the Pentagon President

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Biden ordered the military to down the

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and they did

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recovery operations are now underway and

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will be supported by the Canadian Armed

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this coordinated operation will allow a

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further investigation into this object

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we have no further details about the

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object at this time other than it

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appears to be a small cylindrical object

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those Pilots we have learned have given

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very conflicting accounts of what they

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actually experience with some pilot

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the plane sensors other Pilots saying

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that they didn't really experience that

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other Pilots saying that when they

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no identifiable identifiable propulsion

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system and they did not know how it was

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that altitude of about forty thousand

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pentagon's wariness of describing in

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more detail what this object actually is

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through the debris that they are

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description of its capabilities purpose

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everyone to somewhere in the live stream

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episode 4 a live stream we do every

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Sunday now at 4 P.M Eastern Standard 9

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p.m UK time uh this is I don't even know

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where to begin we have so much to talk

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and Sunday so just be prepared for that

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and something happened so we're gonna

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talk about that with him tonight welcome

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to everyone in the chat thank you so

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much for being here tonight uh for what

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of somewhere in the live stream so let's

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I've got everything here before I bring

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everything over here at somewhere in the

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skies you make the show continue and

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and last but not least before I bring

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the U.S we got the Philly Eagles and the

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Kansas City Chiefs playing so for all of

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um we will be done before the Super Bowl

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so good luck to both teams tonight

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um who do I got I'm gonna go with the

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Eagles I think let me know in the

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comments and then the chat who you guys

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um and uh yeah we'll see what happens

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guys without further Ado we have so much

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to talk about can't waste any more time

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nervous I'm jacked up on Cafe thing and

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excited there he is Vinnie welcome to

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someone in the live stream brother good

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to be here Ryan thank you for the invite

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uh it's like you said last week when you

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invited me to just be prepared for

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something to come up and

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boy boy oh boy did it and it's still

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ongoing I know it's almost like I knew

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this is gonna happen what no no I know

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man it's still going people in the chat

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are saying like yup uh you know Lake

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now uh we'll get into it it's just like

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the dam has broken on whatever the hell

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is going on so I mean let's go there um

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um John with a super chat and paranormal

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pixie thank you to both of you guys

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the first story of the night biggest

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story most current let's do it let me

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get this in here

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Saturday's takedown of an unidentified

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down here and then we'll uh we'll really

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um the unidentified object that was shot

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down in Canadian airspace have been

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tracked since Friday evening according

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object was detected by North American

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Aerospace Defense command NORAD and two

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balloon that was shot down previously uh

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in the US and I said this is the year of

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science maybe like and you know it still

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could be but of course like right now

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UFO or UAP is getting lumped into this

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huge mainstream story which it may still

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be a part of we cannot just discount

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that that this could be something still

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uh not made by human hands of some kind

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some of them look I mean there's these

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differing accounts it's clearly not just

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the Chinese balloon that we saw last

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week uh these objects are different uh

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uh yeah man um it's just we're in

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everyone in the chat is saying like

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we're hearing that there's possibly

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going to be more shootouts in in the

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coming hours day week I don't know maybe

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one old play over the Super Bowl tonight

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I would not doubt it at this point so

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you think all of these are connected are

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we dealing with one

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it is prosaic and I say this because I

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all hit really hard and so I reached out

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to a few friends who have worked you

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analysts who work on sensor systems and

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things like that and I said you know you

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thing you know should I be pursuing this

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and my my answer was really no nothing

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to see here

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um

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and looking again doing more research we

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there's been this domain awareness Gap

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in in the U.S for for in Prior

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administrations you know and only

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recently NORAD have changed the way that

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they used utilize these sensors by you

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know opening the filters up and the

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parameters let's say to

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to focus and look at more objects

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they've been focusing a lot on looking

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for the hypersonics the advanced high

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technology but I think what they might

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have missed is this low technology

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balloons you know so they've gone so far

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looking to the the big Tech that they're

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just completely been missing this this

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low-tech so in my opinion and I know

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it's not going to go down well with

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everyone I just think this is fairly uh

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prosaic and it's just

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uh I said it could be more than just one

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country one

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it could be Russia it could be China

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could be a number of people that's my

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initial thought at this stage and I'd

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love it to be a lot more than that of

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course I would but that's where I would

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love I would love for you to be wrong my

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friend I know uh well and here's the

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problem it it

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just muddies the waters because right

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now all we're seeing is unidentified

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unidentified which is a buzzword that

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literally I know you and me we see that

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word in our sleep we see it in the

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mirror when we wake up and brush our

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teeth we see it every moment of our

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lives and now it's the word being touted

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everywhere in the mainstream media

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unidentified object unidentified object

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so what do you think this is going to do

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for the UFO research Community I mean

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everyone's debating in the chat right

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now and all across Twitter and and just

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all everywhere everyone's you know got

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their own thoughts and opinions on all

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this but the one thing that keeps coming

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up is the term unidentified which we

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always kind of attach to UFOs uh until

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we know what they are do you think this

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was done purposefully whether you know

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the mainstream media was told keep

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saying UFO keep saying unidentified

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because that'll you know make people

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start talking about aliens meanwhile

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they're not going to know the ridiculous

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Gap in in you know National Security

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that we have here in the US

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um is that too conspiratorial what do

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you think not necessarily but I think

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one thing that if that is the case then

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what they might not realize is that by

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by attaching these kind of incidents to

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the UFO subject effect when it all dies

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down and goes away anything slightly

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similar to this is always going to be

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connected and I think we heard today the

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arrow office mentioned in one of these

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news broadcasts and so they really are

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you know intertwining the two subjects

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so I think in the long run that could

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actually be beneficial it means that

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maybe it's talked about in a more

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serious manner the the and they're using

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the term like you said unidentified an

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object in these headlines of these

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stories so

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I I don't see it as necessarily a bad

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thing but what I what I would say to

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people is be careful that when you do

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see those words together that you don't

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assume UFO and it's something completely

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alien or whatever you know I think it

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very easily we can jump you know when

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they mention the cylindrical shape and

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it's the certain size the Tic-Tac phrase

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started flying around social media and

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it's like well slow down you know a Tic

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Tac was a lot bigger than a VW bug or

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whatever the the size comparison was but

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of course once it gets connected and you

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know

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word spreads very quickly and things get

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blown out of proportions so yeah I think

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that's what's happened in certain areas

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let's say yeah well and then that's what

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happens when we're not told anything and

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when you have the pilots like we saw in

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that intro clip uh kind of had

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conflicting testimony on on what

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happened but you do make a good point

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that like this is clearly not the same

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object as the Tic Tac this thing wasn't

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dropping to the surface of the ocean

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going up to 80 000 feet within like half

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a second these things were just kind of

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there not moving

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um nothing has nothing to say as well

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sorry things rub there's nothing to say

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that they didn't have some kind of you

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know payload that included some kind of

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radar jammer on it you know we don't

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know what the payloads contain it might

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have been

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quite basic but who knows this is the

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thing these are the real big gaps that

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we need filling in before we can really

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go any further with this and assume that

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it's if it's jamming it has to be a

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Tic-Tac because that jammed you know

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yeah well right and you know I think

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even I fell fell victim to this I'm like

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well why haven't they gotten the stuff

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yet recovered the debris why are they

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not like telling us what's going on and

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I I guess I didn't really take into

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consideration like the harsh climate in

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which both of these things probably

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landed

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um and some of it was probably literally

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exploded so I mean it's tough it

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recovering this stuff is is not as easy

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as shooting it down per se so um

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hopefully within the next couple days

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we'll have some more clear and concise

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answers on what these are and I'm sure

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we're going to get more shoot Downs I

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just it's like uh it's like a contagious

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thing uh we're seeing like even China

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which we'll get to in a moment is saying

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that they're about to shoot one down so

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um let me just go there quickly I put a

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um

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I put a tweet up earlier today saying

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taking bets on where the next

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unidentified object will be shot down

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winner receives a shout out on next

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week's live stream because I wasn't

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expecting it to happen so quickly uh

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poster location below I got about 120

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comments or guesses that was about at

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this point about 10 11 hours ago

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um but Casey Hammond coming in with the

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win about three out apparently

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apparently I I should say that

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um about three hours before this story

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broke um you'll you'll see their uh

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Chinese State media said that local

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Maritime authorities in East uh East

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China's shendong Province announced on

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Sunday that they had spotted an

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unidentified flying object in waters

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near the coastal city of Rhys how in the

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province and we're preparing to shoot it

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down uh Rim what does that say reminding

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fishermen to be safe via messages yeah

447
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yeah out of there fishermen we're about

448
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to blow up a UAP

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um so allegedly

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one of these has been cited in China

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um

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uh I don't know what do you think do you

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think there's any Credence to this story

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uh again I reached out to some friends

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let's say and I said could this be a

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diversion tactic by China just to say

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well look it's not us doing that in the

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US because it's happening to us as well

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you know could that potentially be

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something that they're trying to do and

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and my response was it's a possibility

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so maybe maybe not maybe this is

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something a lot more complicated and

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than what we think but

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again I Gotta Wait For more information

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and more data yep as always well you

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know let me um before we go any further

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Vinnie we got a few more Super chats I

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just want to shout out here really

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appreciate it guys uh Christian as

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always over at uadb UAP DB excuse me

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brother

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um doing amazing work over there with a

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super chat thank you my friend thank you

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to Fabian thank you to John thank you to

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Paranormal pixie and thank you to Jazz

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Shaw it's not aliens Jess says if they

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came across the vas Gulf of space we

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wouldn't be shooting them down like clay

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pigeons great to see Vinnie on uh yes it

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is thank you Jazz thank you thank you I

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appreciate that as always

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um yeah I mean that is kind of the

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argument right now if any of these were

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actual extraterrestrial craft I don't

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think it would be this easy to shoot it

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down and I also don't think

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uh I was gonna say I don't think the U.S

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would shoot first test questions later

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but I had to stop myself because

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actually

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I wouldn't put it past him to be

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completely obvious that's true yeah

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unfortunately

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um it seems like well it seems like

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we've had confirmation in the chat from

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someone saying on CNN they've confirmed

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the next shoot down oh no where's that

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scene I knew it like Huron

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is that I think is the um

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oh what was it was it Lake Michigan

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or near Michigan I think so yeah I think

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that's the one yeah I think you're right

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okay there we go guys while we're live

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on air it is possible another one of

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these UAP is going to be shot down uh

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if you don't mind I think one good point

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that I would like to raise is back in

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2020 the reports of objects hovering

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over nuclear plants it was the Palo

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Verde there was the Colorado Nebraska

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case and I think they fall into line

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with these kind of stories as well

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um and this was again

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just after this domain awareness Gap was

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really kind of first noticed so I think

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this isn't just a new thing I think it

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has been happening for a few years now

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and it's only now that we're really sort

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of it's being pushed into the mainstream

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media and that so it's definitely not

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new in my opinion and I think a lot of

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other people will agree with that yeah

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well in this kind of plays into this

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whole idea of um the stigma in ridicule

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I think that comes with reporting these

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things I think we're kind of seeing this

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play out as the days go on that um

529
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stigma is probably our biggest enemy not

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even the uh UAP itself it's the not

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reporting it and and now we are

532
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literally seeing that play out because

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we are now seeing these things and

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they're being reported we're gonna start

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shooting them down it is possible that

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some of these balloons if we want to

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call them that or unknown aircraft have

538
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been there have been cited but they kind

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of said it's just a weather balloon

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let's let's not like I don't want to

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fill out the paperwork on there come on

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guys absolutely and I also don't want to

543
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report it as a UFO and that goes for

544
00:24:06,289 --> 00:24:04,620
NORAD too we're now seeing the faults in

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their sensor systems and what they're

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doing

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um and it is possible that in upgrade to

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their sensor systems was all that was

549
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needed to finally discover all these

550
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,880
things so um yeah I think there's

551
00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:19,919
something to that too the whole sensor

552
00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:24,539
system thing and finally it's okay to

553
00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:26,520
report these things even if they are

554
00:24:32,810 --> 00:24:30,900
China or Russia or or Origins unknown

555
00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:32,820
um it's important this whole story is

556
00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:34,860
important no matter what

557
00:24:39,049 --> 00:24:36,659
I agree completely I think that's why we

558
00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:39,059
saw in the UFO report last month with

559
00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:41,340
the with arrow mentioning balloons seem

560
00:24:45,649 --> 00:24:42,900
to be coming up a lot in the report as

561
00:24:48,169 --> 00:24:45,659
well and so it makes sense that these

562
00:24:49,610 --> 00:24:48,179
things are detected analyzed and put to

563
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:49,620
one side and then you can really focus

564
00:24:53,870 --> 00:24:51,240
on these other reports that come in of

565
00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:53,880
objects that don't fit within those

566
00:24:59,630 --> 00:24:56,580
parameters you know so it I think it all

567
00:25:01,310 --> 00:24:59,640
together we're working towards uh a good

568
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:01,320
direction let's say but I think again

569
00:25:05,870 --> 00:25:04,260
it's going to take time and we're going

570
00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:05,880
to have bumps in the road like I think

571
00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:08,100
what this week has shown there are bumps

572
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:10,020
in the road that really need ironing out

573
00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:11,940
and hopefully we'll get there and we'll

574
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:13,740
be able to narrow it down and really

575
00:25:19,270 --> 00:25:17,220
focus on these genuine anomalies that do

576
00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:19,280
crop up every now and again

577
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,000
exactly

578
00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:22,799
um well I know you reached out to an

579
00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:26,760
individual earlier uh today to get their

580
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,820
thoughts on some of this and um they

581
00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:30,960
knew that you were going to be on here

582
00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:32,520
tonight and they knew you'd probably be

583
00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:34,380
making the interview rounds about this

584
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:37,260
story as most UFO researchers are doing

585
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:40,559
right now and uh they gave you their

586
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,940
thoughts is that something that you

587
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,279
might be willing to share with us

588
00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:45,840
absolutely yeah

589
00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:48,659
do you want me to read it yeah

590
00:25:52,669 --> 00:25:51,059
let me get it up here we go I'll just

591
00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:52,679
read off the screen yeah so I reached

592
00:25:56,450 --> 00:25:55,080
out spoke to Lou we've been having quite

593
00:25:59,330 --> 00:25:56,460
a lot of conversations the last few days

594
00:26:00,590 --> 00:25:59,340
with various people and Lou Lou made

595
00:26:02,090 --> 00:26:00,600
this statement and he was happy for me

596
00:26:03,409 --> 00:26:02,100
to share it so he says that you know

597
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:03,419
there should be no surprise that our

598
00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:05,880
adversaries are constantly deploying new

599
00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:08,580
and old capabilities against us in this

600
00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:10,740
case the cause is likely a conventional

601
00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:13,080
technology we must remain calm and allow

602
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,760
our experts at NORAD to do their job

603
00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:17,039
however it is for this precise reason

604
00:26:21,169 --> 00:26:19,020
that the new legislation differentiates

605
00:26:24,350 --> 00:26:21,179
between balloons air clutter and

606
00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:24,360
Bonafide UAP I left DOD five years ago

607
00:26:27,470 --> 00:26:25,860
because our government was not doing

608
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,480
enough to take seriously these

609
00:26:32,450 --> 00:26:29,760
incursions into controlled and sensitive

610
00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:32,460
U.S airspace we now see the results of

611
00:26:36,289 --> 00:26:33,980
not taking this issue seriously

612
00:26:37,549 --> 00:26:36,299
fortunately some are now paying

613
00:26:39,409 --> 00:26:37,559
attention

614
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:39,419
so yeah I was kind of late to allow me

615
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,419
to use that that's awesome Lou if you're

616
00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:44,400
watching or listening thank you we do

617
00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:47,100
appreciate getting your insights I know

618
00:26:51,470 --> 00:26:49,860
he's he's working behind the scenes on a

619
00:26:53,930 --> 00:26:51,480
lot of stuff you know so there are

620
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,940
people like Christopher melon

621
00:26:57,649 --> 00:26:55,919
um and and journalists around the world

622
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,659
are kind of working in the background

623
00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:00,240
and getting these things actually moving

624
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:02,340
whether it's in Congress in the U.S or

625
00:27:08,930 --> 00:27:05,340
even in other countries uh so a lot of

626
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:08,940
this pressure to finally look into this

627
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:11,279
stuff uh whether it's extraterrestrial

628
00:27:16,010 --> 00:27:14,100
or an adversarial

629
00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:16,020
um highly Advanced surveillance

630
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:18,539
technology uh we need to know about it

631
00:27:24,289 --> 00:27:21,720
and we need to uh get ahead of it so

632
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,299
yeah again that's that's awesome I'm so

633
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,880
glad he uh he gave us his insights on

634
00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:28,080
that

635
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:28,679
um

636
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:31,679
one other thing I want to ask you

637
00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:35,760
Vinnie before we kind of move on here is

638
00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:38,220
a lot of people are kind of conflating

639
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,919
what's going on now with this stuff that

640
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:42,799
was brought out in the past few years

641
00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:45,840
through the work of George Knapp Jeremy

642
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:49,620
Corbell uh Dave Beatty even of these

643
00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:52,200
drone swarms as they quote unquote

644
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:54,120
called them um some of the more

645
00:27:58,909 --> 00:27:56,700
skeptical journalists call them that and

646
00:28:01,730 --> 00:27:58,919
some of them probably are let's be

647
00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:01,740
honest but some don't seem to be either

648
00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:04,620
but uh do you think what we're seeing

649
00:28:09,890 --> 00:28:07,320
play out right now has anything to do

650
00:28:12,890 --> 00:28:09,900
with these things that we're seeing over

651
00:28:15,769 --> 00:28:12,900
these Navy carriers in the past you know

652
00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:15,779
five six ten years

653
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:19,080
I think what differences I see uh first

654
00:28:22,490 --> 00:28:20,640
of all these objects this last week I

655
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:22,500
think if not all of them three of them

656
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:25,919
have been you know 40 000 feet moving at

657
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,080
fairly slow speeds

658
00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:30,480
um we've heard a couple of things about

659
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,460
possibly strange propulsion and that but

660
00:28:36,409 --> 00:28:34,559
I I don't buy that straight away

661
00:28:37,970 --> 00:28:36,419
um whereas if you look at the 2019 drone

662
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:37,980
swarms these swings were low altitude

663
00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:41,520
they were coming in uh from the West

664
00:28:45,769 --> 00:28:43,080
I believe yeah they were coming from the

665
00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:45,779
west and then dispersing over various

666
00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:47,940
directions I think there's still a lot

667
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:50,700
of mystery surrounding that case

668
00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:52,740
um it's still a bit muddy I think as

669
00:28:57,289 --> 00:28:55,380
well I mean for me it's kind of just sit

670
00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:57,299
and wait and see what else comes from it

671
00:29:01,789 --> 00:28:59,820
I try my hardest not to draw too many

672
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,799
conclusions on very limited data and

673
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:03,600
information because if you look across

674
00:29:07,250 --> 00:29:05,100
UFO Twitter and everything everyone's

675
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:07,260
got an opinion everyone's trying to

676
00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:08,340
think they're on the right path to

677
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:09,779
working it out but

678
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:12,600
I just think it's too difficult I think

679
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,580
it's take a take us you know take a seat

680
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,039
take on board all the information

681
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:19,919
but we you know we hear John Gutierrez

682
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,140
on weaponized podcasts with Jeremy and

683
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,720
George episode two that was a new voice

684
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,640
from that incident who had spoken to

685
00:29:30,289 --> 00:29:28,320
multiple people involved in so we're

686
00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:30,299
gonna keep hearing things so to form a

687
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,580
conclusion now just seems wrong because

688
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:34,080
further down the line and we hear more

689
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:35,940
evidence it's just gonna change that and

690
00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:38,220
change that so I'm just cautious about

691
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,200
trying to uh

692
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:42,000
assume anything and so back to your

693
00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:43,980
question with are these related

694
00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:46,740
I don't see much of a relation between

695
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:48,500
them to be honest

696
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,299
yeah I would have to agree

697
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:52,799
um I think we were dealing with

698
00:29:58,970 --> 00:29:55,320
something much more aggressive when it

699
00:30:03,169 --> 00:29:58,980
came to uh the the Swarms yeah I I think

700
00:30:06,529 --> 00:30:03,179
that was literally like a show of uh

701
00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:06,539
Power and superiority whereas these were

702
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:08,460
literally built these supposed balloons

703
00:30:15,049 --> 00:30:11,520
to go under the radar or off the radar

704
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,059
and not be caught so it makes sense yeah

705
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,000
um I am getting word I feel like I'm on

706
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:20,399
like the breaking CNN news I'm getting

707
00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:22,980
word from our reporters on the ground uh

708
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:25,740
that the object in Michigan is going to

709
00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:27,240
be shot down

710
00:30:30,769 --> 00:30:27,860
um

711
00:30:33,190 --> 00:30:30,779
yeah I I don't think I think they're in

712
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:33,200
the process uh so

713
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:37,200
uap4 going down in Michigan love it love

714
00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:40,980
it what up to uh Detroit I hope uh hope

715
00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:43,320
you enjoy your your little moment in the

716
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:46,500
spotlight with UAP no Lake Michigan has

717
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:48,600
a lot of UFO activity to be completely

718
00:30:52,130 --> 00:30:49,980
honest

719
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:52,140
um where did I see

720
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:55,679
uh jashaw said Lake Haron one of the is

721
00:31:00,110 --> 00:30:58,200
octagon shape that's interesting that's

722
00:31:02,269 --> 00:31:00,120
one we haven't heard before

723
00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:02,279
um Jazz where did you hear that I'd be

724
00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:05,100
really curious to know how quickly we

725
00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:07,799
found out that was octagon shaped I'd be

726
00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:10,620
uh really curious and Grant actually has

727
00:31:14,330 --> 00:31:12,299
a question for you Vinnie before we move

728
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:14,340
on uh what do you think are the

729
00:31:19,549 --> 00:31:17,279
implications for the UK in Australia do

730
00:31:21,529 --> 00:31:19,559
you think the mod will now change its

731
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:21,539
tune publicly or is it going to take one

732
00:31:25,789 --> 00:31:23,820
of these things to go over Big Ben it is

733
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,799
unfortunately in my opinion it's a great

734
00:31:29,389 --> 00:31:27,600
question Grant honestly and it's nice to

735
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:29,399
see that you know in Australia you've

736
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:31,380
got Senator wish Wilson talking and

737
00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:33,840
putting his pressure on on the

738
00:31:37,549 --> 00:31:35,880
government out there we need someone

739
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:37,559
like that here in the UK we don't have

740
00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:40,740
anybody you know um

741
00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:43,620
myself or the guys at UAP media UK in

742
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:45,059
the past we've tried to push this

743
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:46,799
subject through the government through

744
00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:51,000
MPS local and you know elsewhere but

745
00:31:55,789 --> 00:31:54,179
we're still whenever we get any kind of

746
00:31:57,950 --> 00:31:55,799
Correspondence back from them it's still

747
00:32:00,049 --> 00:31:57,960
the same boilerplate responses they just

748
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:00,059
will not budge on this conversation at

749
00:32:06,110 --> 00:32:03,899
this time so we'll keep trying but Grant

750
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,120
if you've got anything you can advise us

751
00:32:10,250 --> 00:32:08,399
to do please you know and anybody but it

752
00:32:13,370 --> 00:32:10,260
they just will not budge

753
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,380
yeah you guys have your hands full yeah

754
00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:15,360
I want to say you guys over there in the

755
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:17,820
UK I I still am not getting used to it

756
00:32:23,630 --> 00:32:20,760
man uh Ryan you are not in the United

757
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:23,640
States stop it God I gotta do this in

758
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:25,980
front of almost 300 people you're not in

759
00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:27,840
the United States right

760
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,419
um wow 300 people dude I should have

761
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:32,720
known this is gonna happen

762
00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:35,760
we're we're live streaming as these

763
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:37,260
things are being shut down I feel like

764
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:39,720
that how how interesting would have this

765
00:32:44,090 --> 00:32:42,120
have been if like it was an actual Alien

766
00:32:47,149 --> 00:32:44,100
Invasion and you and I was just like

767
00:32:49,370 --> 00:32:47,159
sitting here drinking and feeling like

768
00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:49,380
the world's ending Vinnie cheers hey

769
00:32:52,669 --> 00:32:51,179
that's probably a good way of doing it

770
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,679
to be honest so I'd be like oh yeah

771
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:54,720
let's let's go now in style brother

772
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,559
let's do it Let's Do It um let me see

773
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:00,480
here yeah someone said in the chat it

774
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,760
has been shot down so

775
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:05,279
um yep and the octagon shape came from

776
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,320
the Wall Street Journal so there you go

777
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:09,120
there you go

778
00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:09,840
um

779
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,120
awesome am I forgetting anything Vinnie

780
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:14,640
before we move on to our next story I

781
00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:17,399
think that's probably it man that's been

782
00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:19,380
so much sad I think we've covered the

783
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:21,000
bases and I think we're just gonna have

784
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:22,320
to wait and see it play out over the

785
00:33:25,490 --> 00:33:23,880
coming days and weeks depending how long

786
00:33:27,529 --> 00:33:25,500
it continues you know

787
00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:27,539
absolutely it's a developing story

788
00:33:31,549 --> 00:33:29,640
literally by the second yeah that's

789
00:33:33,049 --> 00:33:31,559
where as we're talking

790
00:33:36,169 --> 00:33:33,059
um we'll let you know if another one

791
00:33:39,169 --> 00:33:36,179
gets shut down while we're still talking

792
00:33:40,909 --> 00:33:39,179
um or you let us know uh yes

793
00:33:42,889 --> 00:33:40,919
constellation that is a Guinness I'm

794
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:42,899
drinking cheers cheers

795
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,600
Andreas that's the same thing wow the

796
00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:47,519
burning question tonight what are you

797
00:33:50,630 --> 00:33:48,899
drinking

798
00:33:53,630 --> 00:33:50,640
Vinnie you brought this story to me

799
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:53,640
almost two hours ago which uh completely

800
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,159
forgive the pun went under my radar I

801
00:34:00,350 --> 00:33:58,080
had no idea this had come out

802
00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:00,360
um this comes from our good friend and

803
00:34:06,289 --> 00:34:02,760
colleague Christopher Mellon and a

804
00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:06,299
gentleman named uh named Tim Tim I want

805
00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:14,930
um yeah let's go with that the ocean

806
00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:16,679
science Community must put science

807
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:19,859
before stigma with anomalous phenomena

808
00:34:24,909 --> 00:34:23,460
this is a wonderful story I'm so happy

809
00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:24,919
you brought it to my attention because

810
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:26,700
we have

811
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:29,460
um Arrow looking at sort of a lot of the

812
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:33,359
stuff going on in our skies uh inklings

813
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:36,540
of you know trans medium being being

814
00:34:42,169 --> 00:34:39,419
spoken with them but not really

815
00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:42,179
saying anything about like what the

816
00:34:49,369 --> 00:34:46,500
oceanic sort of slant or angle is to all

817
00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:49,379
this so um I was just so happy to see

818
00:34:52,129 --> 00:34:50,700
this story

819
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:52,139
um I'll go through a little brief run

820
00:34:59,210 --> 00:34:55,679
down here a real rear Admiral Tim

821
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,220
gallaudot's PhD is the CEO of ocean STL

822
00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:01,440
Consulting and a research affiliate with

823
00:35:06,410 --> 00:35:04,500
Harvard's uh Galileo project he is the

824
00:35:08,329 --> 00:35:06,420
former acting and Deputy Administrator

825
00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:08,339
at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric

826
00:35:12,650 --> 00:35:10,920
Administration Noah and acting under

827
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:12,660
secretary and assistant Secretary of

828
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,560
Commerce and oceanographer in the Navy

829
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,960
um and he basically this is a opinion

830
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:20,400
piece where he's

831
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:24,240
kind of saying all this you know that um

832
00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:26,760
that we're looking at everything in the

833
00:35:30,530 --> 00:35:28,260
skies these potential threats in our

834
00:35:32,569 --> 00:35:30,540
skies but what are all these Oceanic

835
00:35:34,670 --> 00:35:32,579
things doing Noah particularly I think

836
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:34,680
would be a really good one to look into

837
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:38,180
this um and and yeah it's kind of going

838
00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:41,880
going unseen unheard so he's kind of

839
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:43,800
taking the reins to be like look we

840
00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:46,260
gotta we gotta look into this and he

841
00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:48,420
kind of proposes these three immediate

842
00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:50,820
actions that would remedy scientific

843
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:54,359
neglect or of similar anomalies

844
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:56,280
um I'm not going to go through them

845
00:36:01,069 --> 00:35:59,040
entirely uh do you have this pulled up

846
00:36:03,470 --> 00:36:01,079
on your end Vinnie I have the three

847
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:03,480
major points pulled up yeah cool would

848
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,400
you mind maybe running through those for

849
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:07,440
us if you don't mind yeah sure

850
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,760
definitely I mean these are three

851
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:10,320
immediate actions that they believe

852
00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:13,020
would remedy the scientific neglect of

853
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:14,760
basically anomalies in the maritime

854
00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:16,680
domain so the first is the white

855
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:19,500
house-led ocean policy committee and and

856
00:36:22,370 --> 00:36:20,760
he's saying that they should amend their

857
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:22,380
opportunities and actions for ocean

858
00:36:27,890 --> 00:36:25,680
science and technology to add uup which

859
00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:27,900
I think is unidentified undersea

860
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,260
phenomena is right yes yeah

861
00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:33,119
um as a seventh area for a media

862
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:35,880
opportunity so uh it sets in motion

863
00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:38,460
science priorities of executive branch

864
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:40,680
departments as well as government-funded

865
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:43,260
academic and science institutions so it

866
00:36:48,670 --> 00:36:46,560
will instantly create interest in uup

867
00:36:50,690 --> 00:36:48,680
by the ocean science community in the US

868
00:36:52,849 --> 00:36:50,700
uh so that you know that's really

869
00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:52,859
important I think number two he goes on

870
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,839
to say the naval studies Board of the

871
00:36:58,490 --> 00:36:56,880
national academies should conduct a

872
00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:58,500
survey of anomalous undersea

873
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,359
observations and make recommendations

874
00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:02,880
for a national research program and

875
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:04,380
again he's talking about the stigma here

876
00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:05,940
that Ryan Graves the Navy pilot

877
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,099
identified as a cause for suppressing

878
00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:11,040
reports of UAP by other pilots pilots is

879
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:13,079
likely having the same effect for uup

880
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:15,720
evidence in classified and unclassified

881
00:37:20,329 --> 00:37:18,480
ocean sensor data a survey across

882
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:20,339
Federal States private and public ocean

883
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:22,859
research institutions will provide a

884
00:37:28,010 --> 00:37:25,500
baseline for uup occurrence support the

885
00:37:29,329 --> 00:37:28,020
undersea aspect of Arrow's Mission and

886
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,339
serve to shape the elements of a

887
00:37:34,370 --> 00:37:31,440
national research effort regarding them

888
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:34,380
and then finally 0.3 the United Nations

889
00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:36,599
decade of ocean science for sustainable

890
00:37:40,849 --> 00:37:38,700
development should endorse an ocean

891
00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:40,859
decade action to create an international

892
00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:44,099
effort to research uups this Flagship

893
00:37:48,770 --> 00:37:46,020
International collaboration program for

894
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:48,780
ocean science is driven by the un's 17

895
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,000
sustainable development goals many of

896
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:52,800
which benefit from technology advances

897
00:37:59,870 --> 00:37:56,000
resulting from such research

898
00:38:01,609 --> 00:37:59,880
love it again this is the kind of stuff

899
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,619
that people like Chris Mellon are doing

900
00:38:07,609 --> 00:38:04,320
behind the scenes they're not vocal

901
00:38:09,490 --> 00:38:07,619
until they've actually made progress and

902
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:09,500
I think that's why we've sort of seen

903
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,079
melon or Elizondo or or individuals like

904
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:15,359
that kind of blend back into the

905
00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:17,700
background because they're doing work

906
00:38:22,670 --> 00:38:20,520
they're not out saying I'm going to do

907
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:22,680
this which is something I used to fall

908
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:25,380
victim to all the time as like a

909
00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:27,900
creative person like hey I'm working on

910
00:38:32,329 --> 00:38:30,300
a new script it's going to get made next

911
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:32,339
year and then it doesn't happen and like

912
00:38:38,210 --> 00:38:34,260
look everyone's guilty of stuff like

913
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:38,220
that yeah um or you know I I'd say other

914
00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:39,599
examples

915
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:41,640
um but I think the projects are are

916
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:43,320
still going to happen so I don't want to

917
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:45,240
uh to jinx that

918
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:47,700
um but yeah I I think this is a prime

919
00:38:53,630 --> 00:38:51,000
example of organizations that will

920
00:38:55,490 --> 00:38:53,640
eventually become a part of all this and

921
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,500
might even start working with arrow I

922
00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:57,119
mean that's the goal goal right to kind

923
00:39:03,530 --> 00:39:00,300
of get everyone on the same page no more

924
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:03,540
stove piping with all this stuff so uh

925
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:05,760
yeah yeah I think this is super cool

926
00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:07,140
super exciting

927
00:39:13,490 --> 00:39:10,260
um and to see someone like Tim uh kind

928
00:39:15,470 --> 00:39:13,500
of putting his butt out there in

929
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,480
and kind of becoming a part of this

930
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:17,700
because stigma's shedding but it's not

931
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:20,040
completely gone right absolutely and to

932
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:21,720
see someone of his stature come out and

933
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:23,400
talk about it you know

934
00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:25,440
will only send a good message you know

935
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:27,720
down the chain to anybody in these

936
00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:29,400
institutions dealing with the you know

937
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:31,380
the ocean and stuff too

938
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:34,020
talk maybe if they have seen something

939
00:39:37,730 --> 00:39:35,520
whether it be

940
00:39:38,930 --> 00:39:37,740
anomalous readouts or data rather than

941
00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:38,940
an object because you know you haven't

942
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:41,099
always got eyes underwater but you know

943
00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:42,660
with the sensor systems that they have

944
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:44,700
then maybe there has been stuff picked

945
00:39:48,589 --> 00:39:46,920
up so maybe people will come forward

946
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,599
when they see people like him you know

947
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:50,760
putting his neck on the line

948
00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:54,000
I hope so I hope so man David says

949
00:39:58,370 --> 00:39:56,339
Pentagon press conference soon awesome

950
00:40:00,530 --> 00:39:58,380
so we've got this live stream we've got

951
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,540
the Super Bowl and we've got a pentagon

952
00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:01,920
press conference look at what we're

953
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:03,960
working against Vinnie Let's uh let's

954
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:06,720
move on so we don't uh bleed into either

955
00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:08,040
of those

956
00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:09,839
um and also I do want to give a shout

957
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,380
out to James for the Super Chat sadly no

958
00:40:19,130 --> 00:40:15,599
balloon uaps in Brazil the last few

959
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:19,140
weeks James give it some time man it's

960
00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:21,660
only a matter of time I just did a whole

961
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:23,940
episode on Brazil what a strange place

962
00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:26,880
when it comes to the NP if any crazy so

963
00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:29,460
I have no doubt there'll be uh creeping

964
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:31,740
up next with all this for sure

965
00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:34,020
um oh press conference Monday Daniel

966
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:36,660
says okay oh cool a bit of breathing

967
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:39,420
space yeah it gives them time to uh

968
00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:47,030
um let's move on to someone who's not

969
00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:49,859
our friend Vinnie who's not our

970
00:40:55,130 --> 00:40:53,220
colleague that is Mr Vladimir Putin um

971
00:40:57,950 --> 00:40:55,140
this story came out about a week or so

972
00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:57,960
ago but I did want to cover it uh Putin

973
00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:01,140
is buzzed by color changing UFO spotted

974
00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:03,240
by Russian planes as he makes speech

975
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:06,740
threatening nuclear war against the West

976
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:09,960
so pilots and multiple Russian planes

977
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:13,920
reporting a UFO buzzing vulgar grad am I

978
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:16,380
saying that right when Putin visited the

979
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:19,500
city okay a UFO change color and height

980
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:22,640
in the sky a report by telegram Channel

981
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,740
by a telegram Channel said the UFO was

982
00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:27,359
seen and reported to the aviation

983
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:29,700
authorities by the crews of four

984
00:41:35,450 --> 00:41:32,640
separate passenger plates uh Putin had

985
00:41:37,609 --> 00:41:35,460
flown to vulgar vulgar grad excuse me

986
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:37,619
guys under close security to attend

987
00:41:41,690 --> 00:41:39,240
ceremonies linked to the 80th

988
00:41:44,329 --> 00:41:41,700
anniversary of the Battle of Stalingrad

989
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:44,339
in the second world war and

990
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:46,859
um let's see here

991
00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:49,020
uh the incidents came as the dictator

992
00:41:53,870 --> 00:41:52,200
hinted at the conflict in Ukraine uh how

993
00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:53,880
it could turn nuclear following the

994
00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:56,460
West's moves to supply Kiev with major

995
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:58,680
supplies of Tanks

996
00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:00,839
um the crew of the one of these

997
00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:04,680
airplanes said that uh 12 minutes before

998
00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:07,560
reaching the city where Putin was going

999
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:10,140
to be speaking at an altitude of 10 000

1000
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:13,140
meters they reported uh observing a UFO

1001
00:42:18,050 --> 00:42:15,839
at right angles to the plane and on the

1002
00:42:19,069 --> 00:42:18,060
left side it changed color height and

1003
00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:19,079
direction

1004
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,700
the sightings were reported to air

1005
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,560
traffic control and civil and Military

1006
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:24,720
authorities the first sighting was

1007
00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:27,300
around three hours before uh excuse me

1008
00:42:32,329 --> 00:42:29,700
after Putin's arrival the Russian

1009
00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:32,339
authorities have not commented on the

1010
00:42:38,829 --> 00:42:34,140
reports of course they haven't why would

1011
00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:38,839
they yeah but dude I mean this is crazy

1012
00:42:44,930 --> 00:42:41,640
if we want to kind of play the Marvel

1013
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:44,940
MCU everything's connected right we had

1014
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:47,520
uh actually Russia having these things

1015
00:42:53,150 --> 00:42:50,640
happen before us and

1016
00:42:54,170 --> 00:42:53,160
um possibly China next what do you think

1017
00:42:56,210 --> 00:42:54,180
what do you think do you think there's

1018
00:42:57,950 --> 00:42:56,220
anything to this story you never know

1019
00:43:00,290 --> 00:42:57,960
what to believe when it comes to Russian

1020
00:43:02,569 --> 00:43:00,300
media you don't and that's the thing and

1021
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:02,579
I you know I've seen this uh story in a

1022
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:05,700
couple of uh different media outlets and

1023
00:43:10,730 --> 00:43:09,240
I it's very sparse on the data again but

1024
00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:10,740
I was reading through and I thought okay

1025
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:12,780
a color changing that sounds interesting

1026
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:15,060
and I'm scrolling down the article and

1027
00:43:19,010 --> 00:43:16,319
right at the bottom it showed the

1028
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:19,020
stadium or the arena where here boom was

1029
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:21,359
speaking and it had all these bright

1030
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,160
colored lasers shining off of it and it

1031
00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:24,720
was like this is the laser show from

1032
00:43:27,970 --> 00:43:26,220
that event and I'm thinking well let's

1033
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:27,980
talk about color changing and there's

1034
00:43:32,569 --> 00:43:31,020
multi-colored lasers being shot off at

1035
00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:32,579
the similar time

1036
00:43:38,089 --> 00:43:35,940
you know I kind of have to put that as a

1037
00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:38,099
the highest possibility now what the

1038
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:40,380
object is I don't know balloon drone

1039
00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:42,420
reflecting

1040
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,940
laser lights I still think even that's

1041
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,220
more likely than a genuine

1042
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:50,400
craft I don't know it's it's tough

1043
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:51,900
it's tough

1044
00:43:57,230 --> 00:43:55,380
it is and again like we've had some

1045
00:43:59,870 --> 00:43:57,240
incredible cases come out of Russia I

1046
00:44:01,550 --> 00:43:59,880
did an episode uh I don't know maybe a

1047
00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:01,560
year and a half ago where I covered the

1048
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:04,260
whole history of UFOs in Russia but like

1049
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,380
that's what we were given and that's the

1050
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,359
stuff smuggled out from the Iron Curtain

1051
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:11,520
stuff like yeah what George Knapp was

1052
00:44:16,250 --> 00:44:13,020
able to get out

1053
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:16,260
um uh you know a wonderful researcher

1054
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,540
named Paul Stonehill who I highly

1055
00:44:23,930 --> 00:44:21,060
recommend people check out his work a

1056
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:23,940
gentleman uh actually from Russia who uh

1057
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,800
actually I believe he's yeah yeah he's

1058
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,599
from Ukraine actually

1059
00:44:32,829 --> 00:44:30,240
um who brought over

1060
00:44:35,210 --> 00:44:32,839
tons and tons of cases that he'd been

1061
00:44:37,609 --> 00:44:35,220
investigating over there I believe he

1062
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:37,619
lives in the United States now so um

1063
00:44:40,930 --> 00:44:39,240
there is a plethora of phenomena

1064
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:40,940
happening in Russia just like there is

1065
00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:44,160
everywhere else it's just a matter of um

1066
00:44:50,690 --> 00:44:48,000
what is real and what is not but um

1067
00:44:52,910 --> 00:44:50,700
hey if they're gonna

1068
00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:52,920
scare Putin from making more nuclear

1069
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,660
threats uh I'm all for that but

1070
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,880
absolutely man I mean as far as that

1071
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:58,560
story goes if anything else comes out of

1072
00:45:03,050 --> 00:44:59,940
it we need to see

1073
00:45:04,910 --> 00:45:03,060
was it on captured on radar was it any

1074
00:45:06,589 --> 00:45:04,920
straight more strange Maneuvers that we

1075
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:06,599
can see on the radar speeds and it just

1076
00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:08,280
needs more data like any other case and

1077
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,500
I feel like a broken record saying that

1078
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,720
all the time but you know when you get

1079
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:15,359
so deep into the research field and you

1080
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,800
just hit brick walls it's because

1081
00:45:20,890 --> 00:45:18,720
there's not enough data and so it always

1082
00:45:25,069 --> 00:45:20,900
comes down to that

1083
00:45:28,250 --> 00:45:25,079
exactly hey data is where we're heading

1084
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:28,260
next let's move on to a much brighter

1085
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:30,660
story an exciting story

1086
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:33,180
um this came from scientific America

1087
00:45:42,410 --> 00:45:37,440
actually uh love love love this one

1088
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:42,420
um I believe it came out uh maybe a

1089
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:45,000
little over a week and a half ago

1090
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:46,920
um scientists tried to get serious about

1091
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:49,680
studying UFOs good luck with that I love

1092
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:52,500
these snarky headlines scientific

1093
00:45:58,609 --> 00:45:56,520
America is trying to so be like Vice now

1094
00:46:02,150 --> 00:45:58,619
um it's hilarious

1095
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,160
um but hey they did a brilliant article

1096
00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:04,079
kind of looking at all of these

1097
00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:06,540
organizations independent or

1098
00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:09,060
semi-government funded that are looking

1099
00:46:14,569 --> 00:46:11,460
into UAP

1100
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:14,579
um such as the Galileo project is one of

1101
00:46:18,890 --> 00:46:17,220
the big ones I know they spoke to Avi

1102
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:18,900
lobe in the article which was really

1103
00:46:25,250 --> 00:46:22,200
cool they all also spoke to the people

1104
00:46:28,190 --> 00:46:25,260
over at uapx for those of you who don't

1105
00:46:30,829 --> 00:46:28,200
know uapx is a group a non-profit

1106
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:30,839
organization that includes physicists

1107
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,180
engineers and other Specialists and like

1108
00:46:37,970 --> 00:46:35,280
the Galileo project they deploy

1109
00:46:41,450 --> 00:46:37,980
customized sensor lading gear in their

1110
00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:41,460
quest of git more data uapx's

1111
00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:43,500
instruments include infrared visible and

1112
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:46,200
UltraViolet cameras and spectrographs

1113
00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:49,140
their solution is to only look at the

1114
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:51,660
data and we kind of saw that play out in

1115
00:46:56,809 --> 00:46:54,780
the recent documentary a tear in this

1116
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:56,819
guy I believe it was called yeah yeah

1117
00:47:01,010 --> 00:46:59,280
really good really good documentary

1118
00:47:04,849 --> 00:47:01,020
where they were able to use their

1119
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:04,859
instruments to find some data um at the

1120
00:47:10,250 --> 00:47:07,920
location where the Tic Tac was seen so

1121
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:10,260
clearly something's going on there um I

1122
00:47:15,010 --> 00:47:12,000
know there's still you know Getting

1123
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,020
peer-reviewed Papers written about that

1124
00:47:18,589 --> 00:47:17,520
and this article highlighted that so

1125
00:47:22,450 --> 00:47:18,599
that was cool

1126
00:47:25,130 --> 00:47:22,460
um they also highlighted enigma my labs

1127
00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:25,140
Vinnie I need to get your thoughts on

1128
00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:27,960
Enigma Labs they're kind of the um

1129
00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:29,700
I wouldn't even know what to call them

1130
00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:32,460
right now the enigmatic as their name

1131
00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:35,640
States uh black sheep in the UFO World

1132
00:47:40,670 --> 00:47:38,520
nobody really knows who they are or what

1133
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:40,680
they're doing but they're kind of on

1134
00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:42,540
kind of what would you say rolling out

1135
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,720
this plan to have like an app where you

1136
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:48,240
report your UFO stuff and they're going

1137
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:51,119
to start aggregating it all to I don't

1138
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,760
know try to find answers um do you know

1139
00:47:58,010 --> 00:47:56,400
anything about Enigma Labs that I'm

1140
00:48:02,329 --> 00:47:58,020
really

1141
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,339
know much about this group yeah so they

1142
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:04,440
will be collecting a lot of

1143
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,780
cases from the public to to put into

1144
00:48:12,109 --> 00:48:09,599
this database and they will be rating

1145
00:48:14,450 --> 00:48:12,119
them on a scale I don't quite know how

1146
00:48:16,010 --> 00:48:14,460
they're going to work out that scale

1147
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:16,020
um but I think what what stood out for

1148
00:48:18,650 --> 00:48:17,280
me in this article and from

1149
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:18,660
conversations I spoke with Alejandro

1150
00:48:22,910 --> 00:48:21,359
Rojas recently and you know they are

1151
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:22,920
here to not just

1152
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:25,380
take on board all these cases but to

1153
00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:27,660
actually teach people about what UAP and

1154
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:32,099
UFOs UFOs are not so when people are

1155
00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:34,380
capturing anomalous things or what they

1156
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,819
think are anomalous things on camera

1157
00:48:41,329 --> 00:48:38,640
it's a way of showing you know what

1158
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,339
these could be the prosaic explanations

1159
00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:43,680
and that so you know I don't know if you

1160
00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:45,060
get it but I certainly get it a lot

1161
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:46,200
where people want to send me their

1162
00:48:50,089 --> 00:48:48,240
photographs and videos and you know I

1163
00:48:51,770 --> 00:48:50,099
love that and I try and take time to

1164
00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:51,780
look at them but a lot of the time there

1165
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,700
is a fairly straightforward answer and

1166
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,200
I'm happy to to give that to the the

1167
00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:57,119
individual but I think it would help if

1168
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,740
more individuals were able to do that

1169
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,960
for themselves it just

1170
00:49:04,609 --> 00:49:03,119
would help the process of everybody in

1171
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,619
the long run so I think you know there

1172
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:07,680
is controversy about the the backers of

1173
00:49:11,809 --> 00:49:09,240
enigma labs and the fact that they're

1174
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:11,819
keeping some things private and

1175
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,920
there is connection to arrow and the

1176
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,119
government which of course a lot of

1177
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:16,800
people don't like that but if Arrow does

1178
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:18,660
its job and Enigma does its job then it

1179
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:20,940
can only benefit us in in one aspect you

1180
00:49:24,349 --> 00:49:23,220
know maybe I'm being naive but

1181
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:24,359
you know

1182
00:49:29,569 --> 00:49:27,480
um it's yeah I don't think you are I

1183
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,579
think it's hard you know

1184
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:31,680
um someone mentioned Alejandra Rojas and

1185
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:33,720
Ben Hansen who both seem to be working

1186
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:37,859
with Enigma Labs um I think it's good

1187
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:40,500
that we have people like them to people

1188
00:49:46,910 --> 00:49:44,400
I trust uh invaluably in this field uh

1189
00:49:49,010 --> 00:49:46,920
you know they will admit when they're

1190
00:49:52,609 --> 00:49:49,020
wrong on stuff and uh they're not

1191
00:49:56,930 --> 00:49:52,619
perfect uh but it's two people on the

1192
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:56,940
outside who will semi be working with

1193
00:50:00,829 --> 00:49:58,380
government

1194
00:50:03,890 --> 00:50:00,839
um and that's what we want I know

1195
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,900
there's an inherent fear that anyone who

1196
00:50:07,790 --> 00:50:05,119
starts working with the government

1197
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:07,800
immediately catches the government virus

1198
00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:10,920
and becomes a disinformation agent

1199
00:50:15,530 --> 00:50:13,500
um guys this isn't the X-Files it

1200
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:15,540
doesn't work like that

1201
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:18,720
um as much as it's romantic and cool to

1202
00:50:22,430 --> 00:50:19,920
think that way

1203
00:50:23,930 --> 00:50:22,440
um they're just people working for an

1204
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,940
institution they all have their own

1205
00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:25,680
thoughts theories approaches to all this

1206
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:27,480
and I think it's good that they're

1207
00:50:31,370 --> 00:50:29,040
getting people from the outside they

1208
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:31,380
easily could have went the opposite way

1209
00:50:37,490 --> 00:50:33,060
and just worked with government people

1210
00:50:39,050 --> 00:50:37,500
again like an arrow 2.0 or a arrows

1211
00:50:41,809 --> 00:50:39,060
cousin I don't know

1212
00:50:43,609 --> 00:50:41,819
um era yeah I don't I don't know man but

1213
00:50:46,609 --> 00:50:43,619
um yeah I think it's pretty cool they're

1214
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:46,619
also gonna I saw be looking at um

1215
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:49,440
uh past cases too yeah I think they're

1216
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,319
gonna entwine historical cases in with

1217
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:54,480
all the new stuff so it just builds and

1218
00:50:56,990 --> 00:50:55,680
builds into you know what could

1219
00:51:00,349 --> 00:50:57,000
eventually turn out to be the largest

1220
00:51:02,030 --> 00:51:00,359
database uh available you know

1221
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,040
um because we know what happened in the

1222
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,559
past with uh

1223
00:51:09,290 --> 00:51:07,440
um orsap the database that kind of never

1224
00:51:11,630 --> 00:51:09,300
was never made public from those days

1225
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,640
with uh with Bigelow and stuff so maybe

1226
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:13,200
this one is a similar kind of thing and

1227
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,760
that we'll see um

1228
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:16,319
we'll see it in the public domain this

1229
00:51:21,130 --> 00:51:18,540
time that would be amazing it would

1230
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,140
certainly help uh UFO researchers

1231
00:51:26,089 --> 00:51:24,000
absolutely uh they interviewed Leslie

1232
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:26,099
Kane in this article as well you know

1233
00:51:30,109 --> 00:51:27,359
she brought up the Congressional

1234
00:51:32,210 --> 00:51:30,119
hearings the establishment of Arrow and

1235
00:51:34,130 --> 00:51:32,220
she also brought up NASA which you see

1236
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,140
there in the image as well uh they're

1237
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,960
doing their own study this year

1238
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,640
um you know they've hired a group I've I

1239
00:51:43,549 --> 00:51:41,520
believe it was 16 uh individuals

1240
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:43,559
scientists and and everything you could

1241
00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:47,040
think of to look at UFOs uh

1242
00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:50,520
retroactively and proactively and into

1243
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:52,859
the future uh what do you think what do

1244
00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:54,480
we what do you think about NASA getting

1245
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,460
involved in all of this they should have

1246
00:52:00,770 --> 00:51:59,040
been all along but yeah exactly exactly

1247
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:00,780
now it's good that they finally come on

1248
00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,680
board

1249
00:52:05,630 --> 00:52:03,359
um you know Bill Nelson has been quite

1250
00:52:07,309 --> 00:52:05,640
vocal on UAP for the past well since

1251
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:07,319
he's been in charge so that was really

1252
00:52:11,210 --> 00:52:09,420
good to see so when this was announced

1253
00:52:13,309 --> 00:52:11,220
it was really exciting I think initially

1254
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,319
there was a lot of confusion because

1255
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:15,119
it wasn't very clear what they were

1256
00:52:18,349 --> 00:52:16,800
going to do there was this I think it

1257
00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:18,359
was a hundred thousand dollar budget or

1258
00:52:21,589 --> 00:52:20,040
something for a nine month investigation

1259
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,599
and everyone thought how is that going

1260
00:52:25,549 --> 00:52:23,520
to be a good investigation but it's

1261
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,559
actually a nine-month road map

1262
00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:28,319
investigation for potential future NASA

1263
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:30,780
UAP research so it's it's kind of saying

1264
00:52:34,190 --> 00:52:32,460
you know how would NASA go about

1265
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:34,200
actually doing a full research project

1266
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,720
on UAP so in that nine months these 16

1267
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:38,880
individuals will kind of get their heads

1268
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:40,440
together to see how that could uh

1269
00:52:43,609 --> 00:52:42,000
potentially line up nine months later

1270
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:43,619
and I think they're well underway it's

1271
00:52:47,690 --> 00:52:45,660
probably you know a good few months now

1272
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:47,700
so you know fingers crossed later on

1273
00:52:51,890 --> 00:52:49,260
this year we should see some results

1274
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:51,900
from that and uh hopefully a positive

1275
00:52:55,370 --> 00:52:53,579
announcement that they are going to go

1276
00:52:57,710 --> 00:52:55,380
ahead and do a full-on research project

1277
00:52:59,630 --> 00:52:57,720
so we shall see but I think it's a good

1278
00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,640
thing and it's about time

1279
00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:01,760
about damn time

1280
00:53:06,589 --> 00:53:04,140
I know man yeah

1281
00:53:07,849 --> 00:53:06,599
um again any mainstream coverage like

1282
00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:07,859
this in something like Scientific

1283
00:53:16,010 --> 00:53:12,900
American is amazing and I know again

1284
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,020
like there's people on Twitter being

1285
00:53:20,569 --> 00:53:18,000
like all of what's going on now the Spy

1286
00:53:23,870 --> 00:53:20,579
balloons is only going to hurt the UFO

1287
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:23,880
field I get that I completely do but at

1288
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,599
the same time you know my partner the

1289
00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:29,760
other day was like oh my God UFOs is

1290
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:31,020
trending and you know it's always

1291
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:33,240
trending for me with my like individual

1292
00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:35,160
you know how they like kind of aggregate

1293
00:53:39,770 --> 00:53:38,280
your personal uh trending hashtags of

1294
00:53:40,730 --> 00:53:39,780
course UFOs is always going to show up

1295
00:53:42,770 --> 00:53:40,740
for me

1296
00:53:44,569 --> 00:53:42,780
um but even to a person who doesn't

1297
00:53:47,329 --> 00:53:44,579
follow UFO Twitter who doesn't follow

1298
00:53:50,690 --> 00:53:47,339
all the UFO news she's like whoa it's

1299
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,700
trending like what's going on and and

1300
00:53:54,530 --> 00:53:53,040
then it's just like you know it's just

1301
00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:54,540
out of the gate running I'm like well

1302
00:53:59,569 --> 00:53:56,760
let me start with a China balloon two

1303
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,579
weeks ago did I had that the other day I

1304
00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:01,440
I had a school I was dropping my

1305
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,760
five-year-old daughter off at school and

1306
00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:03,839
I was literally studying the school

1307
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:05,220
playground and one of the other dads was

1308
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:06,960
like hey did you hear about this balloon

1309
00:54:17,630 --> 00:54:13,970
the real Vinnie took off the dad mask

1310
00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:17,640
and became a disclosure team Vinnie I

1311
00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:19,800
love it it's so good man dude I still

1312
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:22,500
have those moments I mean I you know for

1313
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:24,480
anyone who doesn't follow my work and

1314
00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:26,940
just finds out that I'm into UFOs it

1315
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:28,500
immediately perks their ears and then

1316
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:31,440
when I tell them like all right like if

1317
00:54:36,530 --> 00:54:33,540
you want to have this conversation

1318
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:36,540
um grab a stool and and give me two and

1319
00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:42,290
um it's awesome when you have ever you

1320
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:43,740
know people who have never thought of

1321
00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:46,260
this stuff getting interested I mean

1322
00:54:50,690 --> 00:54:48,599
within the last few days I'm sure you

1323
00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:50,700
noticed it too like my followers on

1324
00:54:56,089 --> 00:54:54,000
Twitter just like exploded and it's cool

1325
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,099
I'm sure half of them are Bots because I

1326
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,079
did get the free check mark

1327
00:55:02,930 --> 00:54:59,760
um that's a whole other conspiracy show

1328
00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:02,940
but um also there are individuals who

1329
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,859
reached out and said hey I found you

1330
00:55:09,290 --> 00:55:06,240
through

1331
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:09,300
um hashtag like UFOs hashtag UFO Twitter

1332
00:55:13,370 --> 00:55:11,700
and I'm just getting involved off like

1333
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:13,380
should I be worried about any of this

1334
00:55:18,589 --> 00:55:15,960
and I'm like I don't even know where to

1335
00:55:21,530 --> 00:55:18,599
begin but Welcome to our crazy little

1336
00:55:24,049 --> 00:55:21,540
corner of the internet

1337
00:55:26,809 --> 00:55:24,059
um it's crazy so yeah I think what I'm

1338
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:26,819
trying to say that long diatribe is um

1339
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:29,280
uh kind of that old term like any news

1340
00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:32,640
is good news or excuse me um what is it

1341
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,880
good or bad news any news is uh is good

1342
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:38,400
I'm getting that horribly wrong

1343
00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:39,780
um but you know what I mean everybody

1344
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:41,400
you know what I mean

1345
00:55:43,970 --> 00:55:42,720
yeah

1346
00:55:47,630 --> 00:55:43,980
um so I think it's pretty cool that

1347
00:55:49,609 --> 00:55:47,640
scientific America covered that uh dude

1348
00:55:52,370 --> 00:55:49,619
I feel like I'm on cocaine tonight I

1349
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:52,380
don't know what's going on

1350
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:54,780
cool I feel like I'm talking a million

1351
00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:55,859
miles

1352
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,380
um is that a special kind of Guinness or

1353
00:56:02,510 --> 00:56:00,240
something I I think they put something

1354
00:56:04,849 --> 00:56:02,520
in here I got it from my local like

1355
00:56:06,349 --> 00:56:04,859
corner store I usually go to the grocery

1356
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:06,359
store to get it maybe they put something

1357
00:56:09,010 --> 00:56:07,040
in here

1358
00:56:11,690 --> 00:56:09,020
[Laughter]

1359
00:56:14,030 --> 00:56:11,700
I think I'm just hopped up on adrenaline

1360
00:56:16,190 --> 00:56:14,040
I haven't slept in three days as I'm

1361
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,200
sure you haven't either yeah like keep

1362
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:18,240
waiting and being like when's the next

1363
00:56:22,010 --> 00:56:20,640
thing gonna get shot down apparently

1364
00:56:25,130 --> 00:56:22,020
right now

1365
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,140
um all right well speaking of shooting

1366
00:56:31,069 --> 00:56:28,079
down this was not shot down but this

1367
00:56:33,410 --> 00:56:31,079
happened in our neck of the woods we're

1368
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:33,420
moving on to our next story of the night

1369
00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:36,720
guys and then we are slowly but surely

1370
00:56:40,670 --> 00:56:38,760
getting the UFO video of the week not

1371
00:56:43,930 --> 00:56:40,680
slowly we'll get there

1372
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:43,940
um RAF jet in near miss with UFO over

1373
00:56:50,569 --> 00:56:47,400
Newcastle airspace Newcastle that's

1374
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,579
that's a place I know near and dear at

1375
00:56:55,549 --> 00:56:52,319
this point we have a few friends and

1376
00:56:58,010 --> 00:56:55,559
colleagues who live in that area as well

1377
00:56:59,230 --> 00:56:58,020
um dude I spent a Friday night in

1378
00:57:01,809 --> 00:56:59,240
Newcastle

1379
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:01,819
oh my God

1380
00:57:08,750 --> 00:57:06,660
that place was crazy have you been there

1381
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,760
have you been there at night I haven't

1382
00:57:12,250 --> 00:57:11,040
at night I've known not to to go there

1383
00:57:15,950 --> 00:57:12,260
at night

1384
00:57:17,930 --> 00:57:15,960
nobody warned me oh my God this is

1385
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:17,940
something in my early 20s though to be

1386
00:57:23,809 --> 00:57:20,880
honest but yeah I I probably would have

1387
00:57:26,089 --> 00:57:23,819
too but you know I was heading to the um

1388
00:57:28,370 --> 00:57:26,099
the conference that we were going to be

1389
00:57:30,589 --> 00:57:28,380
doing in Manchester yeah yeah so I was

1390
00:57:33,230 --> 00:57:30,599
spending the night in Newcastle and um

1391
00:57:36,290 --> 00:57:33,240
there's like a grocery store attached to

1392
00:57:38,750 --> 00:57:36,300
the train station in Newcastle and you

1393
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,760
know it was like it was when the train

1394
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,319
strikes were I can't believe I'm telling

1395
00:57:45,170 --> 00:57:42,480
the story it was when the train train

1396
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,180
strikes were Happening Here in the UK

1397
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,760
um so I you know from Edinburgh to

1398
00:57:52,910 --> 00:57:49,440
Newcastle it should have taken what

1399
00:57:55,250 --> 00:57:52,920
maybe a few hours couple hours yeah yeah

1400
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:55,260
um took me about 10 and a half hours to

1401
00:57:59,329 --> 00:57:57,839
get to Newcastle because of delays and

1402
00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:59,339
we had to get on different trains this

1403
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:00,839
that this that

1404
00:58:05,329 --> 00:58:03,720
um so I get it I get in around 1am I go

1405
00:58:08,990 --> 00:58:05,339
to the grocery store attached to the

1406
00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:09,000
train station and there was like three

1407
00:58:13,609 --> 00:58:11,160
bachelorette parties in this train

1408
00:58:16,670 --> 00:58:13,619
station grocery store there's this there

1409
00:58:18,890 --> 00:58:16,680
was this one drunk he had to be like 16

1410
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:18,900
years old I don't even know the drinking

1411
00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:20,400
age in the UK

1412
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:23,400
um who like attached himself to me like

1413
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:25,319
a parasite and wouldn't leave my side

1414
00:58:32,270 --> 00:58:28,319
for like two hours

1415
00:58:35,630 --> 00:58:32,280
um crazy crazy experience wow talk about

1416
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:35,640
going off the rails Vinnie um let's get

1417
00:58:41,150 --> 00:58:38,460
back to this story in investigation by

1418
00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:41,160
the UK Air prox Board reported that on

1419
00:58:47,450 --> 00:58:44,700
November 16th of 2022 the crew of an RAF

1420
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,460
military transport aircraft spotted an

1421
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,200
object quickly passing them down the

1422
00:58:52,970 --> 00:58:51,359
right hand side the object initially

1423
00:58:55,370 --> 00:58:52,980
thought to be a drone by the crew

1424
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,380
members then pass level across the

1425
00:59:00,170 --> 00:58:57,599
windows of the flight deck only a few

1426
00:59:01,549 --> 00:59:00,180
feet away from the wing tip of the crew

1427
00:59:04,910 --> 00:59:01,559
who were out on a training exercise

1428
00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:04,920
described the object as circular with a

1429
00:59:10,910 --> 00:59:08,339
hollow center like a donut in dark in

1430
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:10,920
color the object was only around two or

1431
00:59:13,970 --> 00:59:13,200
three feet in diameter

1432
00:59:17,329 --> 00:59:13,980
um

1433
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:17,339
let me see here in the report the board

1434
00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:19,260
also concluded that Providence had

1435
00:59:24,589 --> 00:59:21,660
played a major part in the incident and

1436
00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:24,599
or a definite risk of collision that had

1437
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:26,700
existed apparently this thing came

1438
00:59:32,809 --> 00:59:30,960
within like a few feet of the plane it

1439
00:59:34,490 --> 00:59:32,819
was about to hit it

1440
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,500
um the board warned that the incident

1441
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:36,960
carried a high risk of collision as

1442
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:38,880
there was a distance of less than one

1443
00:59:44,210 --> 00:59:41,040
one foot wow I didn't know it was that

1444
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:44,220
close one foot between so

1445
00:59:47,809 --> 00:59:46,380
um what do you think I mean easily it

1446
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:47,819
could have been a drone but at the same

1447
00:59:52,370 --> 00:59:49,920
time like we don't hear these stories

1448
00:59:54,710 --> 00:59:52,380
out of the UK that often so I was

1449
00:59:57,410 --> 00:59:54,720
excited to see this uh not excited that

1450
00:59:59,329 --> 00:59:57,420
there was always a collision but that uh

1451
01:00:01,010 --> 00:59:59,339
these things are happening everywhere

1452
01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:01,020
here they are I think the one thing that

1453
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:02,880
threw me on this story was the The Donut

1454
01:00:07,309 --> 01:00:05,280
shape that doesn't sound like a drone it

1455
01:00:08,990 --> 01:00:07,319
it probably sounds more like a balloon

1456
01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:09,000
but

1457
01:00:13,010 --> 01:00:10,859
I'd have to speak to the pilot were

1458
01:00:15,549 --> 01:00:13,020
these things off the wingtips with a

1459
01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:15,559
moving independently with with a

1460
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:18,059
reacting to the jet flying past you know

1461
01:00:21,770 --> 01:00:19,920
were they blowing it around I think

1462
01:00:24,410 --> 01:00:21,780
these were flying around I think in the

1463
01:00:26,750 --> 01:00:24,420
article it's FL 75 and FL 90 which I

1464
01:00:28,970 --> 01:00:26,760
believe is flight levels so I think

1465
01:00:30,650 --> 01:00:28,980
that's seven and a half to nine thousand

1466
01:00:31,730 --> 01:00:30,660
feet so not as high as what we've been

1467
01:00:33,170 --> 01:00:31,740
talking about earlier with these

1468
01:00:35,569 --> 01:00:33,180
balloons in the US

1469
01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:35,579
Etc but yeah I mean

1470
01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:38,460
uh speculation isn't it is it a balloon

1471
01:00:43,789 --> 01:00:41,940
is it an anomalous object or is it some

1472
01:00:45,890 --> 01:00:43,799
something else I don't know but it's

1473
01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:45,900
interesting and we we don't get these

1474
01:00:50,030 --> 01:00:47,460
stories that often in the UK where

1475
01:00:52,370 --> 01:00:50,040
they're reported by by the RAF and and

1476
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:52,380
other sort of mod branches so yeah it's

1477
01:00:56,089 --> 01:00:54,240
a strange one I've said I did try to

1478
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,099
search more on the case and all I could

1479
01:00:59,870 --> 01:00:58,559
find was copy and paste media just

1480
01:01:01,490 --> 01:00:59,880
copied and pasted this all over the

1481
01:01:02,930 --> 01:01:01,500
Internet nowhere else no one had done

1482
01:01:05,030 --> 01:01:02,940
any kind of follow-up or anything so

1483
01:01:09,069 --> 01:01:05,040
couldn't find anything

1484
01:01:11,630 --> 01:01:09,079
yeah welcome to 2023 journalism

1485
01:01:13,789 --> 01:01:11,640
you know what I think I think it was

1486
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:13,799
probably a bachelorette party who got

1487
01:01:20,270 --> 01:01:17,040
their hands on a a drone at their local

1488
01:01:22,250 --> 01:01:20,280
train station grocery store and uh we're

1489
01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:22,260
having a good time

1490
01:01:26,630 --> 01:01:24,299
um don't donut shaped yeah you don't

1491
01:01:28,910 --> 01:01:26,640
hear that often um the only thing I can

1492
01:01:31,250 --> 01:01:28,920
really think of is uh the Mori island

1493
01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:31,260
incident if we're going really far back

1494
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,599
are you familiar with that one I am

1495
01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:35,040
indeed but I don't think that was a two

1496
01:01:39,530 --> 01:01:37,380
or three foot object was it no those

1497
01:01:42,109 --> 01:01:39,540
things were apparently kind of massive

1498
01:01:45,470 --> 01:01:42,119
but yeah maybe this is the condensed

1499
01:01:47,809 --> 01:01:45,480
iPhone version of of the donut shaped

1500
01:01:51,049 --> 01:01:47,819
Moray Island incident although that

1501
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,059
thing like dropped magma or some some

1502
01:01:55,549 --> 01:01:53,280
molten metal into the uh the ocean

1503
01:01:57,470 --> 01:01:55,559
apparently so we didn't hear that

1504
01:02:00,170 --> 01:01:57,480
happening that would have been dangerous

1505
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:00,180
over Newcastle for sure

1506
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:03,359
um but you know this this case kind of

1507
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:06,480
um exemplifies the need for Aviation

1508
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:09,359
safety and reports absolutely we're

1509
01:02:13,069 --> 01:02:11,280
we're getting it in the United States

1510
01:02:15,770 --> 01:02:13,079
slowly but surely the stuff that Ryan

1511
01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:15,780
Graves is doing with his committee where

1512
01:02:19,190 --> 01:02:17,160
there is now a place where you can

1513
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:19,200
report these things as commercial pilots

1514
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:22,440
uh but I don't know if there's anything

1515
01:02:27,170 --> 01:02:24,960
similar in the UK I mean where do you

1516
01:02:29,809 --> 01:02:27,180
report a UFO when it comes to that in

1517
01:02:33,530 --> 01:02:29,819
the UK I wouldn't know to be honest I

1518
01:02:35,210 --> 01:02:33,540
know that the RAF used to used to take

1519
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:35,220
reports on these things but there was a

1520
01:02:40,730 --> 01:02:38,640
lot of stigma attached to it RF Pilots

1521
01:02:42,829 --> 01:02:40,740
um David Clark interviewed some Pilots a

1522
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,839
few years back from cases

1523
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:44,400
a few decades back now and there was

1524
01:02:47,089 --> 01:02:45,839
definitely stigma there but they did

1525
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:47,099
report these things

1526
01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:50,220
um over the duty of our safety concerns

1527
01:02:53,690 --> 01:02:52,260
but again all that really happened is

1528
01:02:55,549 --> 01:02:53,700
they they

1529
01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:55,559
they go off somewhere these reports and

1530
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:56,760
they never hear from them again and then

1531
01:03:02,390 --> 01:02:59,760
it's just jibes jibes in there you know

1532
01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:02,400
in on the base and stuff so

1533
01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:04,500
I don't know these days we don't get

1534
01:03:08,270 --> 01:03:06,240
that kind of information there's no one

1535
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,280
really talking about it uh you know and

1536
01:03:12,829 --> 01:03:10,079
I'm lucky to have people that are

1537
01:03:14,809 --> 01:03:12,839
connected to the mod and stuff but you

1538
01:03:17,329 --> 01:03:14,819
still don't hear that much it's just

1539
01:03:19,069 --> 01:03:17,339
it's just like there's this silence over

1540
01:03:21,650 --> 01:03:19,079
here and it's so difficult to break

1541
01:03:24,410 --> 01:03:21,660
through and learn anything at the moment

1542
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:24,420
so I hope it changes

1543
01:03:31,069 --> 01:03:28,799
frustrating well I mean we're trying you

1544
01:03:34,250 --> 01:03:31,079
know UAP media UK is making absolutely

1545
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,260
some amazing Headway I know you guys are

1546
01:03:38,990 --> 01:03:36,720
working on a lot over there so only time

1547
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:39,000
will tell and you know article by

1548
01:03:45,470 --> 01:03:42,960
article honestly it took one effing

1549
01:03:48,289 --> 01:03:45,480
article in the United States to change

1550
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:48,299
the entire conversation on all of this

1551
01:03:50,809 --> 01:03:49,440
so

1552
01:03:53,210 --> 01:03:50,819
um we can only hope we can only

1553
01:03:57,230 --> 01:03:53,220
hopefully yeah yeah

1554
01:03:59,630 --> 01:03:57,240
um well let's move on to a episode of

1555
01:04:02,829 --> 01:03:59,640
the weaponized podcast all right that

1556
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:02,839
came out this past week Jay Stratton

1557
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:06,420
Pentagon UFO Hunter comes out of these

1558
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:10,140
shadows and uh talked to our our friends

1559
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:11,760
our colleagues whatever you want to call

1560
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:14,700
them George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell

1561
01:04:18,650 --> 01:04:17,099
um over on their podcast weaponized Jay

1562
01:04:21,410 --> 01:04:18,660
Stratton was a Former Intelligence

1563
01:04:22,670 --> 01:04:21,420
official and worked with the UAP task

1564
01:04:25,130 --> 01:04:22,680
force

1565
01:04:28,309 --> 01:04:25,140
um he is the highest ranking and most

1566
01:04:30,049 --> 01:04:28,319
experienced UFO Hunter during his long

1567
01:04:31,789 --> 01:04:30,059
career working with various intelligence

1568
01:04:34,010 --> 01:04:31,799
agencies

1569
01:04:36,829 --> 01:04:34,020
um Stratton might have seen more of the

1570
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:36,839
pentagon's Hidden UFO files than anyone

1571
01:04:40,430 --> 01:04:39,059
else he is the only person in the

1572
01:04:43,309 --> 01:04:40,440
federal government to have worked

1573
01:04:45,950 --> 01:04:43,319
directly on all three of the most recent

1574
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:45,960
UFO programs Stratton worked at the

1575
01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:47,760
highest levels of Naval intelligence

1576
01:04:52,609 --> 01:04:49,740
which loaned him to the defense

1577
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:52,619
intelligence agency where he excelled at

1578
01:04:58,130 --> 01:04:55,440
reverse engineering ooh that's

1579
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:58,140
interesting reverse engineering is

1580
01:05:02,569 --> 01:04:59,760
definitely a buzzword in our field

1581
01:05:05,630 --> 01:05:02,579
that's I did not know that

1582
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:05,640
um let's see here uh so yeah basically

1583
01:05:11,150 --> 01:05:08,520
this was the guy who brought us the uh

1584
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:11,160
that worked with atip that brought us

1585
01:05:18,170 --> 01:05:14,880
the first UAP task force report as well

1586
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:18,180
I mean this guy worked hand in hand with

1587
01:05:24,049 --> 01:05:21,540
Luis Elizondo even replacing him at one

1588
01:05:25,329 --> 01:05:24,059
point I believe it was or vice versa am

1589
01:05:28,010 --> 01:05:25,339
I getting that right I don't know

1590
01:05:30,589 --> 01:05:28,020
Stratton was number two to Lou

1591
01:05:32,750 --> 01:05:30,599
um so I think when Lou yeah Lou left

1592
01:05:33,650 --> 01:05:32,760
first I think construct continued I

1593
01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:33,660
believe

1594
01:05:38,990 --> 01:05:36,420
okay I think I can't remember there's

1595
01:05:42,770 --> 01:05:39,000
too many timeline is just so jumping in

1596
01:05:45,230 --> 01:05:42,780
these guys I know I know I yes I can't

1597
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:45,240
keep it together but um I did put

1598
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:47,760
together a small clip from the

1599
01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:50,880
weaponized podcast uh where Stratton

1600
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:52,740
kind of gives us an idea of his

1601
01:05:57,710 --> 01:05:55,440
involvement with this he also talks

1602
01:06:00,410 --> 01:05:57,720
about the um the sort of fanatical

1603
01:06:02,450 --> 01:06:00,420
religious views early in the the working

1604
01:06:05,089 --> 01:06:02,460
group days of this stuff we've we've

1605
01:06:06,829 --> 01:06:05,099
heard that it was a huge deterrent that

1606
01:06:08,690 --> 01:06:06,839
people within the government in the US

1607
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:08,700
are saying don't look into this stuff

1608
01:06:12,410 --> 01:06:10,799
it's demonic like we're not gonna fund

1609
01:06:15,049 --> 01:06:12,420
this absolutely not

1610
01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:15,059
um and it really hurt the projects

1611
01:06:19,250 --> 01:06:17,640
um and we're also going to hear Stratton

1612
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:19,260
talk about why

1613
01:06:23,930 --> 01:06:22,140
um he started at 2004 when it came to

1614
01:06:27,049 --> 01:06:23,940
all this why he didn't go back further

1615
01:06:29,450 --> 01:06:27,059
and uh kind of the challenge is to get

1616
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:29,460
information from all these groups that

1617
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:31,440
did not want to share information with

1618
01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:33,599
him so um let me go ahead and play that

1619
01:06:38,569 --> 01:06:36,660
at now and we'll talk about it on the

1620
01:06:41,150 --> 01:06:38,579
other side awesome

1621
01:06:45,230 --> 01:06:41,160
every time I've done anything related to

1622
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:45,240
UAP or UFO has been my job

1623
01:06:49,309 --> 01:06:47,220
and what I mean by that I didn't really

1624
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:49,319
have a passion growing up I didn't have

1625
01:06:54,770 --> 01:06:50,640
all the books so I didn't watch all the

1626
01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:54,780
TV shows I stepped into a job at the

1627
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:57,660
defense intelligence agency where some

1628
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,980
things came across the desk again

1629
01:07:02,809 --> 01:07:00,480
thinking Technologies and other things

1630
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:02,819
where I needed to to really kind of dig

1631
01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:05,940
in and understand potentials and those

1632
01:07:09,770 --> 01:07:07,740
potentials you know I kept an open mind

1633
01:07:12,589 --> 01:07:09,780
a skeptic mind whatever you want to call

1634
01:07:14,690 --> 01:07:12,599
it you know looking for uh

1635
01:07:17,589 --> 01:07:14,700
something that could answer this and all

1636
01:07:20,210 --> 01:07:17,599
the means that I had to to to chase that

1637
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:20,220
uh but there were definitely some times

1638
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:22,319
where we really couldn't close the loop

1639
01:07:27,490 --> 01:07:24,900
and with that uh

1640
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,500
we realized that that

1641
01:07:32,210 --> 01:07:30,480
something needed to be done about it was

1642
01:07:35,770 --> 01:07:32,220
there any involvement I've heard these

1643
01:07:38,089 --> 01:07:35,780
stories from people we know about

1644
01:07:41,329 --> 01:07:38,099
fundamentalists religious people high

1645
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:41,339
UPS who were concerned about its demons

1646
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:45,119
or we're messing with forces of biblical

1647
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,680
proportions there's absolutely some

1648
01:07:50,329 --> 01:07:48,240
concern there and I did see it in

1649
01:07:52,670 --> 01:07:50,339
writing one time in my career where

1650
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:52,680
someone was asking me to push back

1651
01:07:56,569 --> 01:07:55,200
because they're religious concerns uh

1652
01:07:57,710 --> 01:07:56,579
and and you should wave off of this

1653
01:07:58,730 --> 01:07:57,720
topic is literally what they were

1654
01:07:59,870 --> 01:07:58,740
telling me

1655
01:08:01,730 --> 01:07:59,880
um you know you should you shouldn't be

1656
01:08:03,069 --> 01:08:01,740
involved in this

1657
01:08:07,490 --> 01:08:03,079
um

1658
01:08:09,650 --> 01:08:07,500
I know it exists I think what my

1659
01:08:14,569 --> 01:08:09,660
professional opinion is after again

1660
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:14,579
years now of being involved is

1661
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:17,520
that seems to have died off I think

1662
01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:20,819
one now you know I'm elevated into that

1663
01:08:25,010 --> 01:08:22,980
senior level and a lot of my colleagues

1664
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:25,020
that were all at the same you know level

1665
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,940
that had grown up with me throughout the

1666
01:08:30,769 --> 01:08:28,560
process we don't really think that way

1667
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:30,779
right so I think kind of the Old Guard

1668
01:08:36,289 --> 01:08:32,640
was moving out the new guard was moving

1669
01:08:40,030 --> 01:08:36,299
in and it never once after that early

1670
01:08:42,769 --> 01:08:40,040
Dia stuff you know did it ever ever stop

1671
01:08:44,749 --> 01:08:42,779
uh or get in the way it was just early

1672
01:08:47,630 --> 01:08:44,759
on when when kind of that old guard's

1673
01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:47,640
there and protecting their own you know

1674
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,560
what they believe trust is important you

1675
01:08:53,870 --> 01:08:51,359
can't and you know I think it was Colin

1676
01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:53,880
Powell that said you can't surge Trust

1677
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,219
the minute you're you're I mean we're

1678
01:09:00,829 --> 01:08:58,080
already 70 years behind the power curve

1679
01:09:02,450 --> 01:09:00,839
for trust right because everybody says

1680
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,460
the government's lying to us right and

1681
01:09:04,970 --> 01:09:04,080
that the whole Blue Book thing and the

1682
01:09:07,789 --> 01:09:04,980
whole

1683
01:09:08,809 --> 01:09:07,799
um Roswell thing killed killed trust

1684
01:09:11,150 --> 01:09:08,819
right

1685
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:11,160
um very good reason why not to even go

1686
01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:12,900
there right and and then this whole

1687
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:14,460
discussion you know the task force and

1688
01:09:18,229 --> 01:09:16,080
everything else we kind of started 2004

1689
01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:18,239
right as Mr Bray said in the in the

1690
01:09:23,050 --> 01:09:19,980
Congressional hearings uh you got to

1691
01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:23,060
start somewhere and uh it might

1692
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:25,560
recommendation when I created is that

1693
01:09:29,090 --> 01:09:26,940
2004

1694
01:09:31,130 --> 01:09:29,100
start date is important because that was

1695
01:09:32,930 --> 01:09:31,140
the first case in recent history where I

1696
01:09:34,849 --> 01:09:32,940
had pilot reporting and data now I'll

1697
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:34,859
tell you even as the head of the task

1698
01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:37,199
force I didn't I didn't get into those

1699
01:09:41,390 --> 01:09:39,900
Politics on purpose uh in fact I I went

1700
01:09:42,769 --> 01:09:41,400
back to my old days of Defense

1701
01:09:44,150 --> 01:09:42,779
intelligence agency when I was saying

1702
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:44,160
you know we're nationally funded and I

1703
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:45,660
need to make an assessment that isn't

1704
01:09:50,809 --> 01:09:47,580
manipulated by politics which is

1705
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:50,819
actually the law now following 9 11.

1706
01:09:55,550 --> 01:09:53,759
um I stuck to my guns that I I am here

1707
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:55,560
to you know working on behalf of the

1708
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:56,640
Intel Community to give the American

1709
01:10:01,250 --> 01:09:59,280
people an answer and on numerous

1710
01:10:03,530 --> 01:10:01,260
occasions anytime someone tried to play

1711
01:10:05,689 --> 01:10:03,540
the rank game I would just stick to my

1712
01:10:08,689 --> 01:10:05,699
guns

1713
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:08,699
foreign I love hearing that like I can't

1714
01:10:13,790 --> 01:10:11,520
even imagine like what he went through

1715
01:10:16,189 --> 01:10:13,800
trying to bang on doors and get

1716
01:10:18,770 --> 01:10:16,199
information for many of these places

1717
01:10:20,330 --> 01:10:18,780
because again you like to think that a

1718
01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:20,340
government is cohesive and works

1719
01:10:25,689 --> 01:10:23,880
together but that's just sadly not the

1720
01:10:28,370 --> 01:10:25,699
case especially when it comes to

1721
01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:28,380
intelligence agencies like they're kind

1722
01:10:34,250 --> 01:10:31,560
of working against one another in so

1723
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:34,260
many respects in terms of like trying to

1724
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,960
get it you know bragging rights of what

1725
01:10:42,290 --> 01:10:39,239
they discovered or or what they're doing

1726
01:10:44,750 --> 01:10:42,300
and that's kind of what led I think as

1727
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:44,760
he kind of mentioned um what happened

1728
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:47,340
with 9 11 like had all of these

1729
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:50,520
intelligence agencies worked together it

1730
01:10:54,350 --> 01:10:51,840
is possible that they could have

1731
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:54,360
deterred what happened that day

1732
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:56,880
um that we won't even go there that's a

1733
01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:59,280
conversation for another time but when

1734
01:11:03,229 --> 01:11:01,320
you are dealing with something like UFOs

1735
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,239
but could which could potentially be

1736
01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:05,520
either a threat or could also change

1737
01:11:10,850 --> 01:11:08,520
humanity and there's stove piping going

1738
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:10,860
on like who does that help that helps

1739
01:11:16,010 --> 01:11:13,679
absolutely nobody even these government

1740
01:11:18,290 --> 01:11:16,020
officials so um

1741
01:11:20,090 --> 01:11:18,300
yeah man what do you think uh what do

1742
01:11:22,370 --> 01:11:20,100
you think of Mr J Stratton finally

1743
01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:22,380
coming forward and uh what he had to say

1744
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,020
on weaponized I think it was really a

1745
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:27,120
huge positive thing I was very aware

1746
01:11:30,770 --> 01:11:28,980
that that interview was recorded last

1747
01:11:32,990 --> 01:11:30,780
summer at the seu conference in

1748
01:11:34,910 --> 01:11:33,000
Huntsville so it would have been

1749
01:11:36,530 --> 01:11:34,920
interesting to see if it was a newer

1750
01:11:39,229 --> 01:11:36,540
interview anything that will have

1751
01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,239
changed in the last six months with the

1752
01:11:43,370 --> 01:11:41,520
the latest legislation with the UAP

1753
01:11:45,410 --> 01:11:43,380
report but at the same time you know he

1754
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,420
was talking historically and to hear him

1755
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,520
say things that in in some of the

1756
01:11:52,189 --> 01:11:49,440
investigations they failed to close the

1757
01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:52,199
loop on these things that it demanded

1758
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:53,580
more action you know they were obviously

1759
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,820
coming across something that was truly

1760
01:12:00,649 --> 01:11:58,560
strange to them you know with all of

1761
01:12:02,050 --> 01:12:00,659
their history with his history and his

1762
01:12:05,870 --> 01:12:02,060
career especially coming out of

1763
01:12:07,790 --> 01:12:05,880
Aerospace uh industry in the early 2000s

1764
01:12:10,370 --> 01:12:07,800
before going into defense intelligence

1765
01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:10,380
agency and then obviously into the the

1766
01:12:13,070 --> 01:12:11,880
groups that we know

1767
01:12:15,950 --> 01:12:13,080
um but if you just have to look at his

1768
01:12:18,290 --> 01:12:15,960
LinkedIn profile to see the exceptional

1769
01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:18,300
uh historical career record that he has

1770
01:12:23,810 --> 01:12:21,659
that he's a very important figure and uh

1771
01:12:25,610 --> 01:12:23,820
I'm told that we're going to hear more

1772
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:25,620
from him coming up you know I know he's

1773
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,480
speaking at alien Con in Pasadena in

1774
01:12:32,510 --> 01:12:30,000
early March I want to hear him talk a

1775
01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:32,520
lot more than just at a conference um so

1776
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:34,380
yeah it's good it's great and it helps

1777
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:36,000
to validate some of the things that Lou

1778
01:12:39,770 --> 01:12:37,440
Alexander has been talking about in the

1779
01:12:41,390 --> 01:12:39,780
past few years so it's it's positive

1780
01:12:44,930 --> 01:12:41,400
that's all I see

1781
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:44,940
yeah and he doesn't have to do this like

1782
01:12:50,930 --> 01:12:47,520
he did it not to do it Elizondo didn't

1783
01:12:53,450 --> 01:12:50,940
have to do it and people will say

1784
01:12:54,890 --> 01:12:53,460
everything under the sun to say oh

1785
01:12:58,250 --> 01:12:54,900
they're doing it for money or they're

1786
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,260
doing it for this or fame or notoriety

1787
01:13:02,209 --> 01:13:00,719
I can't like I can't pretend to be

1788
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:02,219
inside their minds and know what they're

1789
01:13:05,930 --> 01:13:03,840
thinking or why they're doing these

1790
01:13:07,130 --> 01:13:05,940
things what their motivations are but

1791
01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:07,140
the fact of the matter is when someone

1792
01:13:11,810 --> 01:13:09,420
like Jay Stratton says I work on behalf

1793
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:11,820
of the intelligence agencies and for the

1794
01:13:14,750 --> 01:13:12,900
people

1795
01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:14,760
um that gives me hope that he was trying

1796
01:13:19,610 --> 01:13:17,100
to do the right thing and I do believe

1797
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,620
that Elizondo was trying to do the right

1798
01:13:23,630 --> 01:13:21,120
thing that's how why he was so

1799
01:13:25,970 --> 01:13:23,640
frustrated because of what Jay Stratton

1800
01:13:28,610 --> 01:13:25,980
also encountered all of these different

1801
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:28,620
agencies being like what you're you're

1802
01:13:32,810 --> 01:13:30,719
here for what or you have get like get

1803
01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:32,820
the get the hell out of here we don't

1804
01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:35,580
want to talk to you like no go away or

1805
01:13:42,830 --> 01:13:37,920
just straight up not taking it seriously

1806
01:13:44,930 --> 01:13:42,840
so um yeah I can kind of see why someone

1807
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:44,940
like Stratton and Elizondo would both be

1808
01:13:50,270 --> 01:13:47,280
in the same position they have similar

1809
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,280
it almost seems like uh uh what would

1810
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:52,320
you call them values when it comes to

1811
01:13:58,729 --> 01:13:55,440
their responsibility to the public

1812
01:14:01,550 --> 01:13:58,739
um and clearly their frustrations is as

1813
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:01,560
well so um yeah yeah I thought it was

1814
01:14:06,350 --> 01:14:04,320
pretty cool to hear from him I I hope we

1815
01:14:07,850 --> 01:14:06,360
learn more I'm sure he'll hopefully

1816
01:14:10,010 --> 01:14:07,860
start doing the interview circuit and

1817
01:14:11,870 --> 01:14:10,020
you and I will get him on at some point

1818
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:11,880
we'll see we'll see I want to speak to

1819
01:14:16,370 --> 01:14:13,920
him about you know the the fact that in

1820
01:14:19,430 --> 01:14:16,380
George Knapp and James lakotsky's book

1821
01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:19,440
skinwalk is at the Pentagon he was the

1822
01:14:24,169 --> 01:14:22,080
anonymous or this he went by the sudany

1823
01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:24,179
Maxwell Rod Jonathan Axelrod that was

1824
01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:25,800
Jay Stratton who had had these

1825
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:27,780
experiences at Skinwalker Ranch and you

1826
01:14:31,310 --> 01:14:29,520
know I'd love to hear more about that uh

1827
01:14:33,709 --> 01:14:31,320
so there are still a lot a lot of pieces

1828
01:14:36,410 --> 01:14:33,719
of his story that really need to

1829
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,420
be expanded on and I can't wait for that

1830
01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:38,159
conversation to come out wherever it

1831
01:14:43,370 --> 01:14:41,040
happens wow yeah now that you mentioned

1832
01:14:46,010 --> 01:14:43,380
that hearing the experiences that

1833
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,020
Axelrod had in that book I want to learn

1834
01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:48,719
more about that in his personal thoughts

1835
01:14:55,130 --> 01:14:51,000
and opinions that that's so all of these

1836
01:14:57,290 --> 01:14:55,140
people have had experiences and um that

1837
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:57,300
that can be good that can be bad a lot

1838
01:15:02,890 --> 01:14:59,280
of people will argue well that's going

1839
01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:02,900
to skew their perception of uh you know

1840
01:15:07,550 --> 01:15:06,179
objective research when it comes to all

1841
01:15:09,470 --> 01:15:07,560
this you know when you start bringing

1842
01:15:11,689 --> 01:15:09,480
belief into it

1843
01:15:13,010 --> 01:15:11,699
um that that's what muddies the waters

1844
01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:13,020
but like

1845
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,500
how do you separate an experience from

1846
01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:18,480
from your work I can't pretend to know

1847
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:21,060
the answer to that but um I know a lot

1848
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:22,800
of mufon investigators deal with that

1849
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:25,199
too like there you have to find an

1850
01:15:29,450 --> 01:15:27,360
explanation for something it's usually

1851
01:15:31,209 --> 01:15:29,460
prosaic but then they come up against

1852
01:15:34,189 --> 01:15:31,219
something so

1853
01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:34,199
extraordinary that like how do you even

1854
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,120
go on after that being a grounded

1855
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:38,640
objective investigator I I can't even

1856
01:15:44,209 --> 01:15:41,400
pretend so I'm sure it's a struggle I I

1857
01:15:45,470 --> 01:15:44,219
don't know yeah I mean it certainly

1858
01:15:47,390 --> 01:15:45,480
wasn't alluded too much in that

1859
01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:47,400
interview if at all so I think you know

1860
01:15:51,530 --> 01:15:49,739
maybe it's kind of he's laying he's his

1861
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:51,540
cards on the table to sort of say sort

1862
01:15:54,530 --> 01:15:52,800
of give a bit of background on himself

1863
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,540
and then the The Experience aside of

1864
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:56,880
things might come a bit later you know

1865
01:16:01,610 --> 01:15:59,520
um yeah hitchhiker effect everything by

1866
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:01,620
the sounds of things you know if we go

1867
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:04,560
by George Knapp's book so there's a lot

1868
01:16:08,270 --> 01:16:06,239
to come and I hope we get it and I hope

1869
01:16:10,669 --> 01:16:08,280
it's interesting and it gives us

1870
01:16:14,270 --> 01:16:10,679
something to work off of

1871
01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:14,280
yeah absolutely it does I can't wait man

1872
01:16:21,050 --> 01:16:17,400
um well hey we have reached the Finish

1873
01:16:24,830 --> 01:16:21,060
Line tonight we are at UFO video of the

1874
01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:24,840
week a little hey I like to do um if if

1875
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:28,140
I can dig up a credible uh video every

1876
01:16:33,950 --> 01:16:30,480
week it's very hard to do but I do have

1877
01:16:37,550 --> 01:16:33,960
a um a tweet over on my personal Twitter

1878
01:16:39,229 --> 01:16:37,560
guys at Ryan sprague51 I believe is my

1879
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,239
Twitter handle I don't even know my own

1880
01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:41,280
personal Twitter

1881
01:16:45,169 --> 01:16:43,199
um if you guys know of any credible UFO

1882
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:45,179
videos you can put them in that pinned

1883
01:16:49,370 --> 01:16:46,260
tweet

1884
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:49,380
um but this is the one I found uh that

1885
01:16:55,010 --> 01:16:52,560
it happened somewhat recently and

1886
01:16:56,990 --> 01:16:55,020
um let me pull this up here

1887
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:57,000
how do I get this in there there we go

1888
01:17:03,970 --> 01:17:00,000
uh this was filmed what we're going to

1889
01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:03,980
look at by a pilot who goes by uh Caesar

1890
01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:06,900
inmp on Tick Tock he actually posted

1891
01:17:12,050 --> 01:17:09,000
this on his Tick Tock this happened

1892
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:12,060
February 2nd 2020

1893
01:17:16,729 --> 01:17:14,280
um he was flying an Airbus 320 on a

1894
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:16,739
routine flight over Medellin Colombia

1895
01:17:22,189 --> 01:17:19,920
and he looked out the cockpit window and

1896
01:17:23,870 --> 01:17:22,199
among the clouds spotted something he

1897
01:17:26,209 --> 01:17:23,880
quickly grabbed his phone and filmed

1898
01:17:28,130 --> 01:17:26,219
what he was witnessing first pointing

1899
01:17:30,530 --> 01:17:28,140
the camera at his ultimate his uh

1900
01:17:32,930 --> 01:17:30,540
altimeter excuse me which shows he was

1901
01:17:34,490 --> 01:17:32,940
flying at about 30 000 feet and then

1902
01:17:38,330 --> 01:17:34,500
aiming it out the window towards the

1903
01:17:40,850 --> 01:17:38,340
clouds and uh this is what he saw so

1904
01:17:42,410 --> 01:17:40,860
let's go ahead and play the video and we

1905
01:17:44,689 --> 01:17:42,420
will come back on the other side and

1906
01:17:50,430 --> 01:17:44,699
talk about it

1907
01:17:50,440 --> 01:18:22,310
[Music]

1908
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:25,070
all right Vinnie what do you think man

1909
01:18:29,810 --> 01:18:28,080
what do you think that is

1910
01:18:32,090 --> 01:18:29,820
um reaction

1911
01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:32,100
I saw this when it first sort of cropped

1912
01:18:36,890 --> 01:18:34,920
up back in 2020 uh I think my first

1913
01:18:38,810 --> 01:18:36,900
initial thought when I first saw it was

1914
01:18:40,729 --> 01:18:38,820
like okay that's strange it's certainly

1915
01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:40,739
not got wings or any kind of visible

1916
01:18:45,229 --> 01:18:43,920
control surfaces so yeah you know and if

1917
01:18:46,669 --> 01:18:45,239
you look at the angle that it's filmed

1918
01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:46,679
out there's a bit of Parallax in there

1919
01:18:50,990 --> 01:18:48,600
you can't tell if it's stationary or

1920
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:51,000
moving by itself so my initial thoughts

1921
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:52,380
when I first saw it a couple of years

1922
01:18:57,470 --> 01:18:54,800
ago but okay it's strange but

1923
01:18:59,450 --> 01:18:57,480
better dig in it doesn't take long to

1924
01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:59,460
kind of work out what it most likely is

1925
01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:02,159
and now I believe it to be a balloon

1926
01:19:06,890 --> 01:19:04,860
because this event this this video was

1927
01:19:10,990 --> 01:19:06,900
filmed literally one day after the

1928
01:19:13,149 --> 01:19:11,000
median solar balloon festival so

1929
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,159
yeah

1930
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,080
I'm breaking my heart I did not know

1931
01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:19,199
that yeah wow dude well that's the kind

1932
01:19:23,930 --> 01:19:21,000
of digging we need

1933
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:23,940
um when this first sort of went public I

1934
01:19:27,169 --> 01:19:24,960
know a lot of people in the chat are

1935
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:27,179
like this is an older video yes this is

1936
01:19:31,970 --> 01:19:30,600
from 2020 I know it's not new um but I

1937
01:19:33,890 --> 01:19:31,980
thought it was pretty compelling and

1938
01:19:36,350 --> 01:19:33,900
something we could talk about

1939
01:19:38,030 --> 01:19:36,360
um The History Channel their TV show the

1940
01:19:40,490 --> 01:19:38,040
proof is out there examine the footage

1941
01:19:43,610 --> 01:19:40,500
and interviewed analysts such as our

1942
01:19:47,090 --> 01:19:43,620
colleagues Tim McMillan and MJ benais as

1943
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:47,100
well and a photo video analyst and one

1944
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:50,159
scientist suggested it is 10 to 15 feet

1945
01:19:56,450 --> 01:19:53,520
in diameter but its structure is unlike

1946
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:56,460
any Earthly flying object

1947
01:20:02,270 --> 01:20:00,000
um they just stopped after uh 15 feet in

1948
01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:02,280
diameter there was a photograph of a

1949
01:20:06,169 --> 01:20:03,960
bunch of gentlemen holding a balloon of

1950
01:20:08,570 --> 01:20:06,179
that shape that was massive between them

1951
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:08,580
they were holding this 10 to 15 foot

1952
01:20:12,649 --> 01:20:10,080
solar balloon

1953
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:12,659
so it is it is huge

1954
01:20:18,050 --> 01:20:15,840
forensic video analyst feels that the

1955
01:20:20,810 --> 01:20:18,060
movement in the video looks authentic

1956
01:20:23,149 --> 01:20:20,820
but questions how the pilot knew to zoom

1957
01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:23,159
in on the object that's one thing people

1958
01:20:26,330 --> 01:20:24,600
don't think of a lot when it comes to

1959
01:20:28,189 --> 01:20:26,340
UFO videos

1960
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,199
um sort of my first obviously the first

1961
01:20:32,570 --> 01:20:30,239
question is always did you physically

1962
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,580
like did you visually witness this

1963
01:20:37,010 --> 01:20:34,800
object or did you notice it in like a

1964
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,020
photo or video after that's the first

1965
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:39,360
question second question is you know

1966
01:20:45,709 --> 01:20:43,440
what compelled you to uh capture this or

1967
01:20:49,010 --> 01:20:45,719
what were you doing at the time

1968
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:49,020
um and here you have to wonder you know

1969
01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:53,760
you can't see maybe he did track it uh

1970
01:20:59,570 --> 01:20:56,940
we don't really know prior to this maybe

1971
01:21:02,270 --> 01:20:59,580
he saw it coming and he's like oh [\h__\h] I

1972
01:21:05,530 --> 01:21:02,280
gotta get my camera out and tape this

1973
01:21:08,990 --> 01:21:05,540
um excuse me record this tape this WOW

1974
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:09,000
1998 Ryan yeah way to go there showing

1975
01:21:10,970 --> 01:21:10,260
my age

1976
01:21:13,729 --> 01:21:10,980
um

1977
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:13,739
you have to wonder you know why was he

1978
01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:15,840
filming how did he know it was going to

1979
01:21:20,689 --> 01:21:19,320
be on that side this that this that

1980
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:20,699
um let's see

1981
01:21:26,750 --> 01:21:24,719
if I'm missing anything here uh

1982
01:21:28,669 --> 01:21:26,760
uh they suggested it could be a solar

1983
01:21:30,830 --> 01:21:28,679
balloon like you said Vinnie but that

1984
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:30,840
it's highly unlikely since they don't

1985
01:21:36,590 --> 01:21:34,320
really survive at such a high altitude

1986
01:21:37,790 --> 01:21:36,600
um yeah I read something her argument I

1987
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:37,800
read something that they they actually

1988
01:21:41,630 --> 01:21:39,900
can they can survive with that and this

1989
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,640
is you know I did a good bit of digging

1990
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:43,440
and and spent a good bit of time on this

1991
01:21:46,729 --> 01:21:44,159
and

1992
01:21:49,310 --> 01:21:46,739
there are people who are in that kind of

1993
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,320
industry who who have seen these things

1994
01:21:52,729 --> 01:21:51,120
at these Heights you know they may not

1995
01:21:55,310 --> 01:21:52,739
last that long so maybe it was just

1996
01:21:57,470 --> 01:21:55,320
right place right time to see this

1997
01:22:00,590 --> 01:21:57,480
within a you know a short time span

1998
01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:00,600
before it didn't survive much longer but

1999
01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:03,420
I mean with with so many things pointing

2000
01:22:07,970 --> 01:22:05,760
towards that to then just say but it

2001
01:22:13,149 --> 01:22:07,980
can't be because of that one point uh it

2002
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:16,729
that one went right over my semi-drunk

2003
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,189
um there was another video that I

2004
01:22:25,310 --> 01:22:23,520
originally was going to show with this

2005
01:22:28,729 --> 01:22:25,320
one that happened in Medellin Colombia

2006
01:22:32,090 --> 01:22:28,739
as well I think I took it off the roster

2007
01:22:33,709 --> 01:22:32,100
um with you because I I pretty much came

2008
01:22:35,930 --> 01:22:33,719
to the conclusion that it was just a

2009
01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:35,940
balloon hanging in the air

2010
01:22:39,229 --> 01:22:38,340
um but kind of similar it looked like

2011
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:39,239
this

2012
01:22:42,890 --> 01:22:41,280
um but it was just stationary hovering

2013
01:22:46,970 --> 01:22:42,900
over the city

2014
01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:46,980
um and it happened more recently I

2015
01:22:51,649 --> 01:22:50,159
believe uh than this one did so again it

2016
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:51,659
could be a balloon

2017
01:22:57,470 --> 01:22:54,719
um it could be anything but uh yeah I I

2018
01:22:59,450 --> 01:22:57,480
think you uh you popped the bubble on

2019
01:23:01,610 --> 01:22:59,460
this one for me brother and I think we

2020
01:23:03,470 --> 01:23:01,620
are looking at a solar balloon

2021
01:23:04,970 --> 01:23:03,480
it seems to be a running theme in the

2022
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,980
show isn't it it's a balloon themed show

2023
01:23:08,330 --> 01:23:06,960
and you know I I'll say this to

2024
01:23:10,370 --> 01:23:08,340
everybody that's watching and listening

2025
01:23:12,649 --> 01:23:10,380
is I wish we were seeing a lot more

2026
01:23:13,970 --> 01:23:12,659
anomalous things and you know this is

2027
01:23:15,530 --> 01:23:13,980
what we've got to do we got to get rid

2028
01:23:17,090 --> 01:23:15,540
of all these kind of things and just

2029
01:23:19,910 --> 01:23:17,100
work our way through them this is just

2030
01:23:23,209 --> 01:23:19,920
part of the process isn't it and uh

2031
01:23:26,030 --> 01:23:23,219
you know we can't always show what we

2032
01:23:28,010 --> 01:23:26,040
want to see as much as we want but hey

2033
01:23:30,050 --> 01:23:28,020
yeah that's the way it goes it's about

2034
01:23:32,930 --> 01:23:30,060
finding the truth you know

2035
01:23:35,630 --> 01:23:32,940
um I I love living in the mystery of

2036
01:23:37,010 --> 01:23:35,640
UFOs I always will because I personally

2037
01:23:39,709 --> 01:23:37,020
don't believe we're ever going to get

2038
01:23:41,390 --> 01:23:39,719
all the answers to any of this but at

2039
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:41,400
the same time like you just have to know

2040
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:45,120
when to say this is a conventional

2041
01:23:51,649 --> 01:23:48,560
aircraft or a highly

2042
01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:51,659
extraordinary conventional aircraft

2043
01:23:56,330 --> 01:23:53,460
something we might not even know about

2044
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:56,340
yet but uh it was built by human hands

2045
01:24:02,270 --> 01:23:59,520
uh and I think this whatever this thing

2046
01:24:05,149 --> 01:24:02,280
was was built by human hands and it was

2047
01:24:07,729 --> 01:24:05,159
part of a Balloon Fest so yes welcome to

2048
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:07,739
somewhere in the balloon tonight guys uh

2049
01:24:14,209 --> 01:24:10,080
for sure well Vinnie

2050
01:24:16,610 --> 01:24:14,219
speaking of things uh that you're doing

2051
01:24:20,149 --> 01:24:16,620
and things that are coming up and what's

2052
01:24:22,370 --> 01:24:20,159
going on in 2023 I gotta asked brother

2053
01:24:25,130 --> 01:24:22,380
before we wrap things up and let you go

2054
01:24:28,850 --> 01:24:25,140
here uh what is going on over at

2055
01:24:31,310 --> 01:24:28,860
disclosure team UAP media UK I know

2056
01:24:34,550 --> 01:24:31,320
you're going to be traveling a lot in

2057
01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:34,560
the coming months doing your UFO your

2058
01:24:39,350 --> 01:24:37,260
UFO thanks so give it to us brother what

2059
01:24:43,070 --> 01:24:39,360
do you got going on over at everything

2060
01:24:44,930 --> 01:24:43,080
you're doing uh so the podcast the show

2061
01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:44,940
YouTube show continues with myself and

2062
01:24:48,770 --> 01:24:47,100
my co-host Katie Howland we have a lot

2063
01:24:52,729 --> 01:24:48,780
of good guests lined up in the come in

2064
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:52,739
uh weeks uh and into March a couple

2065
01:24:55,850 --> 01:24:54,300
which I think people should really look

2066
01:24:58,370 --> 01:24:55,860
out for when they're announced I'll say

2067
01:25:00,290 --> 01:24:58,380
that much then I'm speaking at UFO Expo

2068
01:25:01,970 --> 01:25:00,300
virtually that is in Roswell New Mexico

2069
01:25:03,470 --> 01:25:01,980
that is in March I'm doing a virtual

2070
01:25:05,990 --> 01:25:03,480
presentation there

2071
01:25:08,510 --> 01:25:06,000
then in April I fly back out to Colombia

2072
01:25:10,610 --> 01:25:08,520
to continue our investigations into the

2073
01:25:12,530 --> 01:25:10,620
mysterious light phenomena on the

2074
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:12,540
mountain there for season two of

2075
01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:16,800
phenomenology then I am speaking in

2076
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:19,199
Roswell again in June at the very end of

2077
01:25:24,050 --> 01:25:21,420
June um but this time in person so

2078
01:25:26,630 --> 01:25:24,060
myself Graham Randall Dan zetterstrom

2079
01:25:28,490 --> 01:25:26,640
will all be in Roswell doing our own

2080
01:25:31,610 --> 01:25:28,500
presentations and stuff for the whole

2081
01:25:34,729 --> 01:25:31,620
three-day event and and more so yeah

2082
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:34,739
it's a busy first six months of 2023 and

2083
01:25:39,470 --> 01:25:37,199
I'm sure the second half will continue

2084
01:25:42,169 --> 01:25:39,480
to be busy but lots going on really

2085
01:25:45,290 --> 01:25:42,179
excited and can't wait to do it all

2086
01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:45,300
awesome man the British Invasion taking

2087
01:25:50,330 --> 01:25:48,360
over Roswell hey that's all we need we

2088
01:25:52,070 --> 01:25:50,340
need all perspectives and uh that's

2089
01:25:54,530 --> 01:25:52,080
awesome I might just have to make the

2090
01:25:57,790 --> 01:25:54,540
Trek out with you guys I'll uh I'll I'll

2091
01:26:00,110 --> 01:25:57,800
carry your luggage

2092
01:26:03,050 --> 01:26:00,120
that's how it's gonna go that's that's

2093
01:26:06,729 --> 01:26:03,060
my that's that's my contribution to UAP

2094
01:26:09,169 --> 01:26:06,739
media UK I'll take it man I'll take it

2095
01:26:11,390 --> 01:26:09,179
love it love it man

2096
01:26:12,649 --> 01:26:11,400
um well yeah this is pretty exciting you

2097
01:26:14,990 --> 01:26:12,659
know I have a co-host over at the

2098
01:26:17,090 --> 01:26:15,000
channel as well Katie Howland

2099
01:26:19,310 --> 01:26:17,100
um who's actually I just confirmed will

2100
01:26:21,290 --> 01:26:19,320
be joining me next week for somewhere in

2101
01:26:24,350 --> 01:26:21,300
the live stream so oh amazing the whole

2102
01:26:26,570 --> 01:26:24,360
disclosure team is uh is helping me out

2103
01:26:28,490 --> 01:26:26,580
here over at somewhere in the sky so

2104
01:26:30,169 --> 01:26:28,500
that'll be really cool she's doing some

2105
01:26:32,810 --> 01:26:30,179
great work as well

2106
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:32,820
um and I'm sorry I I did I miss it did

2107
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:35,520
you when are you heading to um to to

2108
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:38,880
work on phenomenology I fly out April

2109
01:26:44,209 --> 01:26:42,480
the 5th okay for two weeks yeah that's

2110
01:26:47,149 --> 01:26:44,219
gonna be that'll be season two right

2111
01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:47,159
season two the the investigative team uh

2112
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:48,840
we've got a few core members from season

2113
01:26:53,149 --> 01:26:51,600
one but then we've got also got a a load

2114
01:26:55,850 --> 01:26:53,159
of new people coming in so some new

2115
01:26:58,910 --> 01:26:55,860
we've got archaeologists we've got uh

2116
01:27:01,010 --> 01:26:58,920
defense experts so uh the team is twice

2117
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:01,020
the size this time so it's going to be a

2118
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:03,120
lot different not only are we going to

2119
01:27:06,229 --> 01:27:04,560
be looking at the the same mountain and

2120
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:06,239
the light phenomena we've got a lot more

2121
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:08,159
equipment that we're taking out but

2122
01:27:13,790 --> 01:27:09,600
we're also going to be going visiting

2123
01:27:17,209 --> 01:27:13,800
other ancient uh mysterious sites let's

2124
01:27:19,070 --> 01:27:17,219
say and I can't wait to go there and and

2125
01:27:20,510 --> 01:27:19,080
get get stuck in get boots on the ground

2126
01:27:22,970 --> 01:27:20,520
you know

2127
01:27:25,729 --> 01:27:22,980
I love them and that's all we need we

2128
01:27:27,729 --> 01:27:25,739
need more boots on the ground less of

2129
01:27:29,930 --> 01:27:27,739
these live streams right

2130
01:27:32,270 --> 01:27:29,940
I should have say that while we're live

2131
01:27:33,890 --> 01:27:32,280
streaming and probably eight more

2132
01:27:36,410 --> 01:27:33,900
balloons were shot down

2133
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:36,420
um but many listen brother you've been

2134
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,340
very gracious with your time I'm going

2135
01:27:42,830 --> 01:27:40,320
to say good night to you and debrief

2136
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:42,840
with the audience here but once again

2137
01:27:47,390 --> 01:27:44,940
please let us know where we can find

2138
01:27:48,709 --> 01:27:47,400
everything you're up to yeah sure I mean

2139
01:27:50,510 --> 01:27:48,719
the best place to go is you can see

2140
01:27:52,729 --> 01:27:50,520
right below me here on YouTube is my

2141
01:27:55,310 --> 01:27:52,739
Twitter handle uh you can go there and

2142
01:27:58,250 --> 01:27:55,320
then in my bio you'll find all my links

2143
01:27:59,689 --> 01:27:58,260
like literally all my links.com go there

2144
01:28:02,090 --> 01:27:59,699
go and check out everything I'm doing

2145
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:02,100
and uh yeah hit me up if anybody wants

2146
01:28:06,169 --> 01:28:03,120
to talk

2147
01:28:08,090 --> 01:28:06,179
awesome all right man I'm gonna let you

2148
01:28:11,629 --> 01:28:08,100
know it let you go I know it's getting

2149
01:28:13,310 --> 01:28:11,639
late over here in the UK and um hey get

2150
01:28:15,770 --> 01:28:13,320
ready for that press conference on

2151
01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:15,780
Monday I'll be ready we'll have to uh

2152
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take our bets on where the next one is

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gonna be for sure

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all right good night my friend thank you

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very much good night good night chat

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take care goodbye thanks Vinnie

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01:28:33,890 --> 01:28:31,800
wow that was a hell of an episode guys

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that was a marathon I don't know what's

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01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:35,460
up I feel like I think I had too much

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01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:37,560
coffee before this one because I knew

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we'd be covering a lot and there's a lot

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01:28:43,669 --> 01:28:41,340
going on clearly

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01:28:45,470 --> 01:28:43,679
um this is the highest watched live

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01:28:46,850 --> 01:28:45,480
stream we've done yet at somewhere in

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the live stream

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um so thank you thank you to everyone

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01:28:53,209 --> 01:28:50,760
who may have just tuned in for the first

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time this is a live stream that I do

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01:28:57,890 --> 01:28:55,560
every week here at somewhere in the

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skies if you're not familiar with the

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01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:00,179
podcast uh check it out you can

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01:29:04,250 --> 01:29:02,639
subscribe anywhere you get podcasts and

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01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:04,260
right here on YouTube as well I really

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01:29:09,410 --> 01:29:06,540
saw the episodes here

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01:29:11,149 --> 01:29:09,420
um and yeah it's every Monday so I'm

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01:29:14,510 --> 01:29:11,159
literally releasing an episode in the

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01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:14,520
next couple hours UK time so be on the

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01:29:19,970 --> 01:29:16,800
lookout for that where we are going to

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01:29:23,629 --> 01:29:19,980
be speaking to the one and only Richard

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01:29:25,729 --> 01:29:23,639
Dolan uh Richard is a historian and a

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01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:25,739
UFO researcher you probably know him

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01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:28,560
from uh your television screen screens

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01:29:34,010 --> 01:29:31,440
and documentaries or read his books he

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01:29:36,410 --> 01:29:34,020
doesn't do many interviews anymore

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01:29:38,330 --> 01:29:36,420
um you know he's just busy working but

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he was very gracious and came on the

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01:29:42,050 --> 01:29:40,320
show we had an awesome conversation

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01:29:45,470 --> 01:29:42,060
about everything going on in the UFO

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01:29:48,110 --> 01:29:45,480
world right now and um yeah it was a

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01:29:49,850 --> 01:29:48,120
fascinating conversation we talked all

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01:29:51,470 --> 01:29:49,860
about his work with the Wilson Davis

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01:29:53,209 --> 01:29:51,480
notes

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01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:53,219
um which is a very hot button issue in

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01:29:59,689 --> 01:29:56,880
the UFO field so we get his new thoughts

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01:30:01,729 --> 01:29:59,699
and perspectives on that case

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01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:01,739
um and we just covered everything he

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01:30:07,250 --> 01:30:03,600
answered your listener questions it was

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01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:07,260
basically a listener ask me anything and

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01:30:11,629 --> 01:30:09,239
then he was kind enough to head on over

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to patreon and spend an extra half hour

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01:30:15,290 --> 01:30:13,980
with me and certain more listener

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01:30:17,209 --> 01:30:15,300
questions

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01:30:20,090 --> 01:30:17,219
um so be on the lookout for that episode

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01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:20,100
which releases in just a few excuse me

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01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:22,320
just a few hours on all podcast

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01:30:27,410 --> 01:30:25,679
platforms and right here on YouTube

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01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:27,420
um and then head on over to patreon and

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01:30:32,030 --> 01:30:29,280
listen to us talk for another 30 minutes

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01:30:35,870 --> 01:30:32,040
about a lot more of them

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01:30:39,050 --> 01:30:35,880
more esoteric and and and thought

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01:30:41,450 --> 01:30:39,060
experiment conversation of UFOs it was

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01:30:44,149 --> 01:30:41,460
so much fun uh probably one of my

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01:30:45,890 --> 01:30:44,159
favorite patreon episodes we've done yet

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01:30:49,010 --> 01:30:45,900
um so you can become a patron and help

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01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:49,020
the show out at patreon.com somewhere

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01:30:52,490 --> 01:30:50,400
Skies

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01:30:55,729 --> 01:30:52,500
um that bonus episode is also available

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01:30:57,890 --> 01:30:55,739
to Apple premium subscribers so if you

2219
01:30:59,390 --> 01:30:57,900
listen to the podcast on Apple

2220
01:31:02,510 --> 01:30:59,400
um just go right to the top of the feed

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01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:02,520
click subscribe at the top there it's uh

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01:31:07,490 --> 01:31:05,040
4.99 a month uh just like it is on

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01:31:10,610 --> 01:31:07,500
patreon and you can get all of our bonus

2224
01:31:13,010 --> 01:31:10,620
episodes and uh Early Access to all of

2225
01:31:15,169 --> 01:31:13,020
our interviews that come out on Monday

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01:31:17,930 --> 01:31:15,179
so you'll get them on like the Friday

2227
01:31:20,330 --> 01:31:17,940
before or Saturday or Sunday a few days

2228
01:31:22,610 --> 01:31:20,340
early and you also get to ask our guests

2229
01:31:24,830 --> 01:31:22,620
your questions so those are the rewards

2230
01:31:27,890 --> 01:31:24,840
to get for becoming a patreon member or

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01:31:28,970 --> 01:31:27,900
an apple premium subscriber or a YouTube

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01:31:34,070 --> 01:31:28,980
member

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01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:34,080
as well and uh same perks so yeah be on

2234
01:31:37,970 --> 01:31:35,580
the lookout those are three ways you can

2235
01:31:41,090 --> 01:31:37,980
help out somewhere in the skies and and

2236
01:31:42,890 --> 01:31:41,100
all that but um guys we covered a lot

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01:31:44,810 --> 01:31:42,900
tonight I know the chat was blowing up

2238
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:44,820
and I was not able to get to a lot of

2239
01:31:49,010 --> 01:31:47,280
stuff so I want to apologize

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01:31:52,669 --> 01:31:49,020
um but I hope you guys had a really good

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01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:52,679
conversation amongst yourselves uh it's

2242
01:31:56,930 --> 01:31:54,239
crazy right now

2243
01:31:59,330 --> 01:31:56,940
um it's really crazy out there so all

2244
01:32:02,209 --> 01:31:59,340
I'm gonna say is um

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01:32:04,450 --> 01:32:02,219
just keep your ear to the ground

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01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:04,460
um there's gonna be a lot of uh

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01:32:08,330 --> 01:32:06,960
posturing going on in the coming weeks

2248
01:32:10,430 --> 01:32:08,340
when it comes to

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01:32:12,590 --> 01:32:10,440
probably China in the United States

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01:32:14,030 --> 01:32:12,600
mostly and all of the stuff going on

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01:32:15,770 --> 01:32:14,040
there's probably going to be more

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01:32:18,590 --> 01:32:15,780
shootdowns of these things whether it's

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01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,600
in Canada or the us or even other

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01:32:22,669 --> 01:32:21,120
countries as well we're hearing that

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01:32:25,610 --> 01:32:22,679
China may have shot one of these down as

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01:32:27,530 --> 01:32:25,620
well is that just you know kind of their

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01:32:30,470 --> 01:32:27,540
way of being like Oh we have them too I

2258
01:32:33,169 --> 01:32:30,480
don't know I I nobody knows right now

2259
01:32:35,450 --> 01:32:33,179
and they can't pretend to know I know uh

2260
01:32:37,370 --> 01:32:35,460
Chuck Schumer in the United States said

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01:32:39,709 --> 01:32:37,380
that all three of these shootdowns were

2262
01:32:42,229 --> 01:32:39,719
definitely balloons uh but I have not

2263
01:32:44,090 --> 01:32:42,239
seen that confirmed just yet so I'm not

2264
01:32:45,950 --> 01:32:44,100
willing to go there just yet saying

2265
01:32:49,550 --> 01:32:45,960
they're all Spy balloons

2266
01:32:51,709 --> 01:32:49,560
it's the most likely explanation

2267
01:32:54,350 --> 01:32:51,719
um but I would not take one person's

2268
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:54,360
word for it just yet

2269
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:56,400
um so yeah that's all I got guys

2270
01:33:02,510 --> 01:32:59,760
exciting times weird times was not

2271
01:33:05,570 --> 01:33:02,520
expecting this on the old ufology bingo

2272
01:33:08,750 --> 01:33:05,580
card of 2023 but who knows what to

2273
01:33:12,110 --> 01:33:08,760
expect anymore with any of this so

2274
01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:12,120
keeps me young keeps me going and it

2275
01:33:23,390 --> 01:33:21,110
delicious I'm gonna say goodnight guys

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01:33:25,610 --> 01:33:23,400
thank you thank you so much to all of

2277
01:33:28,250 --> 01:33:25,620
you for watching tonight if you can

2278
01:33:30,590 --> 01:33:28,260
please click like below please subscribe

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01:33:32,450 --> 01:33:30,600
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2280
01:33:34,370 --> 01:33:32,460
share the show with someone you think

2281
01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:34,380
might be interested in the UFO topic we

2282
01:33:39,290 --> 01:33:36,360
have a lot of fun here uh we take it

2283
01:33:41,810 --> 01:33:39,300
seriously but not too seriously and um

2284
01:33:43,250 --> 01:33:41,820
we just want to know the truth to all of

2285
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:43,260
this so hopefully we will get those

2286
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:45,600
answers and hopefully those answers will

2287
01:33:51,470 --> 01:33:48,719
lay somewhere in the skies so as always

2288
01:33:53,149 --> 01:33:51,480
thank you to everyone who gave the super

2289
01:33:55,970 --> 01:33:53,159
chats thank you to all of you for

2290
01:33:57,890 --> 01:33:55,980
watching for listening

2291
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:57,900
um I am going to put all of your

2292
01:34:03,649 --> 01:34:00,480
goodbyes up as we say good night here

2293
01:34:06,290 --> 01:34:03,659
and uh leave you with our Mantra as

2294
01:34:08,209 --> 01:34:06,300
always keep your feet on the ground but

2295
01:34:10,729 --> 01:34:08,219
never stop searching somewhere in the

2296
01:34:11,580 --> 01:34:10,739
skies have a great night and go watch

2297
01:34:13,770 --> 01:34:11,590
the Super Bowl

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